Thread: Sharing Dreams? Possibility?

No, I don't think it does happen often. And that's probably a good thing, at least for me... I don't have any idea how it happens or how anyone can make it happen, but I do believe it's possible.

I think it might be a coincedence but still... Thought i should put it here:
I had a dream (normal) where i was walking along a path, then i saw my dads house (living with mum) and suddenly i was inside of his dream! I know this sounds crazy but still! It was a dream about a hospital scary place (nightmare -shudder-) and my dad was there aswell. But when i woke up i rung dad and he said just about what i dreamed? Coincedence?

EDIT: I don't want it to happen again. Was kinda freaky

That's very interesting. So you got definite confirmation! I do think it's possible. It seems especially so with members of the same family, as psychic links appear to be stronger.

Well, my experience was when I was way younger. when I still slept with mommy and daddy. My mom told me that me and my dad were sleep talking to eachother but I dont remember any of it. She told me we were conversating. I never asked him what he dreamt of so I dont if it was shared.

Hey all, I know this thread hasn't been active in a while but my twin sister and I were trying to investigate shared dreams and came across this thread and thought we'd just put our two cents in.

As I previosuly stated we're twins (fraternal ones actually, so we're not identical), and actually we've had several shared dream experiences (we call them 'link dreams') we had 1 where we started together and then split up, we've had someone start the dream, someone else end it, and met somewhere in the middle. We've just missed each other on a few occasions. You may not believe us, but we know what they were, especially considering some new information concerning dreams where apparently what we remember as our 'dream' was actually 5 dreams all rolled into one (which is apparently why we can have such crazy dreams...), so the chances of coincidentally having EXACTLY the same crazy dreams is pretty slim. To us, the dreams we have are sort of temporary story/universes where we just pop into and interact, a shared dream environment (not to be confused with us claiming to go to other worlds ;P just trying to explain what it's like). It's like we're sharing the dream storyline as separate characters (although sometimes the same charatcer, when we pick up where someone else left off).

The most dramatic experience we have ever had was when we were younger and we've called it: 'The day that never was'
Basically, it was a memory of a day. Crystal clear, its as real to me and my sister as any other event in our lives, it's not clouded by fuzzy dreaminess, or distorted physics, movements, thoughts words or anything. It felt real.
But it never happened, and though we asked around in our family about the day no one else knows what we're talking about. We initially wondered if everyone else just forgot about it until we started dissecting the day.
We didn't remember how the day started or ended, and in the day we had a painting competition, but the picture I created was impossibly brilliant (I wish I could do art like that now XO) so it would still be around, it never would've been gotten rid of. But more importantly I don't remember making it, but I remmeber that I made it. So yes, admittedly the memory and logic lapses suggest it was a dream, but it really did feel real, for years my sister and I wondered what happened to our pictures XP.

So yes, we know we have shared dreams, though we don't know the circumstances in having them (proximity doesn't seem to matter, it just seems rather...random) we've only had one really damning telepathic experience (I basically wished my sister would check to see if anyone was coming, I was dead quiet hiding behind a locker - we were playing a game...sorta... - and she immediately heard me in her head and thought that I had actually spoken to her outloud. We suspect this incident had something to do with proximity and adrenaline) so we don't speak telepathically in our dreams, though I can call her name in her head and give her headaches XP.
Sadly at the moment it appears to be only a one-way thing, she can't reach me at all =(

Anyways, call us crazy, deluded, or imaginative liars or whatever, but we thought we'd just share this litle bit of information.
~Ciao

Originally Posted by Onesong

Hey all, I know this thread hasn't been active in a while but my twin sister and I were trying to investigate shared dreams and came across this thread and thought we'd just put our two cents in.

Why didn't I think of asking twins for shared dreaming accounts?

Thanks for sharing that Onesong.

I wanted to ask you about a theory I have on shared dreaming, but I fear twins are less than ideal for this question. Anyways, my theory is that both parties in a shared dream do not see exactly the same things. Generally speaking, most things should be the same, but small details can differ.

I say that because dreams are based on our previous personal experiences, and no two of those are the same. Generally we all encounter the same things, same emotions, objects, types of people, but everyone has small differences in how they see those things. Being twins, you two would have more similar experiences than most people. Even siblings separated by a year or more would have noticable differences, but I'm not so sure about twins.

Even though I think there should be fewer differences for twins, they should still be there, just harder to spot. So did you two notice any differences? If not I would wager it's because just you two only described things generally, but if you were to each isolate detail from your dreams, you would find slight differences.

If possible, you think you and your twin could each write out detailed versions of one or two of those shared dreams? It's just that shared dreaming has been a hot topic around here and there is really very little information. Most claims come from a single person, and I've never had the chance to study both accounts of a shared dream. (I'm the resident expert on the subject by default) Write in present tense and include all detail you can remember, even if it interrupts the narrative. I gloss over a lot of detail irrelevant to the plot in my DJ, but in this case, the more data the better.

As to why twins would have shared dreams, my theories on dreaming boil down to attention and archetypes. Archetypes are the maps you travel and attention determines which direction those archetype take. A shared dreaming interaction, or any RL interaction with another person takes places withing the confines of those archetypes, or at least within the ones both parties have in common. Because you and your twin have experienced mostly the same things at the same times (same ages too), the archetypes you two developed over the years are going to be very similar, moreso than with anyone else. Especially at younger ages, which is when I suspect most of your shared dreams took place.

Actually, our shared dream experiences have been spread out, the 1st three occurred between when we were 6-9yrs, then again from about 13-17 yrs (the most recent being a brief one last night).

As for describing, we shall endeavour to do so, unfortunately, some of the dreams are years old, so not really sure how much detail you'll get out of us XP.

We'll just do the one for now, as this is one of the few ones where we stick together, albeit briefly, but atleast it's a relatively well remembered dream.

Version 1:

It starts off at a snow covered school-like manor house thing. I can’t remember what happened very clearly, all I know is that I was rather young, wearing warm clothing, and we had just been on a field trip of some kind to this large dark grey castle-like building. I remember that it had snow covered black wrought-iron gates, and we were driving away from the building with other children, presumably headed back to our normal school. I had the feeling that we were really escaping from a place of great evil. My sister and I were suddenly in a (red?) car, it was a pretty average car, medium sized, 5 seater, a boot with room for shopping, probably based off the family car. We were driving down a narrow road, there was a cliff face to the left, and a sheer drop to a river to the right. I was sitting on the far right-hand side of the car, in the back seat, my sister was beside me (I think I might have been wearing a pink winter jacket with grey-white fluffy trim, and had blonde shoulder length hair). and had been looking out the rear-window at the school-place. I then turned to look out the window on my right and my eyes went to the gap created by the slightly open window. As my gaze settled on the gap, I felt myself being sucked out the window. In a single fluid movement I was up and outside the car and the view changed from first-person to third, revealing two small girls suspended above the car, over the edge of the cliff-road, and holding hands (which, according to the dream logic, was why we were both sucked out together). Just as quickly it returned to first-person and I found myself falling towards the fast flowing river, I was aware that I was no longer holding my sister’s hand. The river was not amazingly wide (3m maybe?) and on the opposite bank (from the cliff-face) was a dark wood, with all the trees rather close together, there was no grass, all I could see was a muddy bank. Just in the trees is a red-headed boy from school, with another random boy next to him on his left, they have both apparently ‘escaped’. In my mind, it is apparent that my sister and I have just ‘escaped’ from something, though at this point I’m not sure what. As my feet hit the water, I woke up.


Version 2:

First thing I recall was being in car with a black interior, if felt like I had just popped out of nowhere and now was sitting in the back seat, I recall that I was wearing winter clothing but I don’t remember what they look like, I remember looking out the window to see where I was. I could see a black silhouette of a castle slightly in the distance not that far away, and in front of that a black slightly snow covered arched spiky gate leading to the castle, the terrain was covered in snow apart from the road and the path leading to the castle.
Then the car started moving, and I was still looking out the window, we drive near an edge and the window goes down a bit then the next thing I know I’ve been sucked out side holding hands with someone with a blur of yellow hair, as I’m freefalling to the ground below, its then I glances over to see who I’m holding hands with, but their face is all blur, so I can’t tell who they are, I then glance back down to the ground, and spot a river and a haystack, I feel that who ever I’m holding hands with is heading for the river, me not wanting to get wet let go of their hand and glide myself to the haystack, I land safety without getting hurt. I quickly get myself out of the haystack after spitting out hay from my mouth, and now I’m about to start walking in when a green car drives up, it stops and a red haired boy comes out, I know him from school and start head to the car that’s when my dream ends.


And those are our accounts. Make of it, what you will ;P
We know it's short, but we didn't want to go on forever, and this was one of the clearest memories of a link dream where we spent time in each others company at the beginning. It's only brief, but relatively clear for a dream we shared when we were 7.

This guy I used to work with told me a story about how he got his cooking job. He said he really needed a job bad, he had a dream of someone/something telling him to call such-and-such, at a specific time, and what to say, on a specific day. He followed the instructions and the place had just started hiring. They gave him the job.

I DO believe in psychic abilities and precognitive dreaming. This is why I said that all our minds are connected. It's just not so apparent right now.

I also think dreamscape...or the place where dreams take place, is possibly shared by humans as a whole, and taking place outside of time and space....infinity. I know this is a hard idea to grasp, most don't understand what infinity means, because it's not logical. We always think something has a beginning and an end. It's linear thinking, which is what we're taught in schools and such. Quantum physics is rapidly proving that this isn't the big picture.

You might find this interesting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDhoFt7tKoQ

I think shared dreaming may be possible, but both dreamers won't necessarily see the same things. But if what that guy says in that video has truth in it, and the dreamscape is really an ocean of dreamers thoughts, then that means certain thoughts attract to other thoughts. Law of attraction, here in waking life and in dreams. Maybe the dreamscape IS the astral realm?? As unbelievable as it sounds, it makes a lot of sense.

I posted this in another thread.

Thank you for that quick reply Onesong. Very good descriptions of the dreams too!

Don't know what I was hoping to find with that, but it's very interesting. And a first for having both accounts of a shared dreams around here.

I totally believe you, because in my expert opinion those dreams weren't made up. Getting sucked out the window like that by focusing on it is totally how dreams work.

As I expected, there were slight differences. Like the red head standing in the trees in one and driving up in a car in the other. The castle too is close, matches in general theme and mood, but there does seem to be some variation in the descriptions.

Originally Posted by The Cusp

Thank you for that quick reply Onesong. Very good descriptions of the dreams too!

Don't know what I was hoping to find with that, but it's very interesting. And a first for having both accounts of a shared dreams around here.

I totally believe you, because in my expert opinion those dreams weren't made up. Getting sucked out the window like that by focusing on it is totally how dreams work.

As I expected, there were slight differences. Like the red head standing in the trees in one and driving up in a car in the other. The castle too is close, matches in general theme and mood, but there does seem to be some variation in the descriptions.

Cusp check your PM

Originally Posted by The Cusp

Archetypes are the maps you travel...

Interesting metaphor, what is the source of these archetypes? How do you explain them, where do they come from?

Originally Posted by Xetrov

Interesting metaphor, what is the source of these archetypes? How do you explain them, where do they come from?

Archetypes are formed as you learn from personal experience. We learn by making associations, and an archetype is the sum total of associations connected to one topic.

There are absolutely, without question, shared dreams.

These can be spiritual events, shared by more than one person. I will give a few examples:

1. While living in West Philadelphia, I had an Indian friend, Raji Malik. He was a very well known sitar player. I had a long dream of just me and him talking. At the end of the dream, I asked him, "How can I prove to you, tomorrow, that we had this discussion?" He pondered, then said, "Tell me my favorite band is "ONE"."

When I saw him, I conveyed the dream and the confirmation. He said, "Well, that is certainly true, my favorite band is called "One". I asked about the band, as I had never heard of it. He said, "It is MY BAND."

I had more dreams with both Raji and his band mate, Arun, later.

2. A Marine (once a Marine, always a Marine), I had a penchant for attacking demons or suppressing forces whenever I saw them. One day, while working in my West Philadelphia shop, a young woman customer (a Christian girl) came in. She shopped in my store three or four times a week, and was always cheery. On this day, I asked about her obvious disturbed state.

She said, "I came in here, I don't know why exactly... But I know I need to tell YOU this. In my dreams, the last three nights, I have been held prisoner. I was forcibly captured the first night, now I cannot have any dreams other than being a prisoner in that room. There are other prisoners as well."

This made me angry, and I thought, 'I'm going to go and get those bastards.' But I said, "Don't worry about it."

I did not see her for almost three full weeks.

She came in, bagged some bagels and brought them to the register. As I rang up her items, she asked, "Do you know why I haven't been in here for so long?"

I said no.

She said, "The night after I told you my problem, you came into my dream. I was sitting in the hostage room with the others. Suddenly, the wall blew out. You ran through it, firing a machine gun and killing all the hostage takers. You threw another grenade and blew out the opposite wall and ran through that hole. You never stopped." She looked at me. "It was so violent. I have been afraid to come see you."

"Have your dreams returned to normal?" I asked.

"Yes," she said.

And she never shopped at my store again.

I have more examples. Most of the examples are about coming together to fight enemies. I have even had shared dreams with people who I met AFTER the dream. My friend Edward is an example.

I have also met enemies first in dreams. Again- fights, but in this case against demonically intertwined individuals. One was a sorcerer (yes, really). Another was a freemason- the full-blown, fully complicit, satan-worshiping kind.

There is ZERO doubt-- two human beings, uniquely created, individual beings can be in the same dream, one attempting, sometimes succeeding in forcing will on the other(s).

These can also be friendly dreams. Raji encouraged and warned me in my dreams with him. I was going through tough times. We were very different people in life, but in our dream meetings, he was a valuable friend.

Also, considering that angels are also unique sentient creations like us, there are many positive interactions with angels in dreams. Angels deliver messages both in person (it still happens today) and in dreams.

Remember, you have a right to deny access. Declare something like, "You have no right to be here. I command you to go in the name of Jesus!" Demons absolutely fear the name of Jesus, and people also have to obey. No exceptions.

Man of Modesto, those were very interesting stories.

Do you think we all dream in the same place? Like the same realm. Maybe dreams all take place in this huge ocean of dreamers thoughts. And you can share dreams by having thoughts that are similar to another dreamer's thoughts. Like attract like, law of attraction.

Maybe there is no such thing as the astral plane, but only dreams. Maybe their the same thing. What if our subconscious is not really ours, but it's a shared subconscious by everyone. Collective unconscious.

If you believe in shared dreaming, you must believe then that all of this isn't just "in your head". Not that I'm trying to prove something, it's just very interesting.

Hard Wired- You are correct, I do not believe that ALL dreams are simply "in our head". Some are.

There are at least two realms of dreaming. One is simple, and more safe. The other includes the elements of evil, but also has a greater capacity to grow within it.

I am not sure how that works.

While our body rests, our spirit goes to learn. It goes into a real, spiritual place. The travel is experienced, but I do not believe the travel is through space, a dimension of land, measured with miles, or even light years. I believe it is some other form of travel that takes place.

I have not prayed about it, but I can.

If people do enter some dreaming plane, or dreamscape for lack of a better word, than I would believe that it is no longer a dream. A dream, by what I find to be logical defintions, is personal and is in your head. If you enter some dreamscape, you may have transcended some consciousness barrier but you aren't still dreaming. It's a totally seperate thing. As far as dreams that can, (with todays technology,) be studied, examined, etc. I see absolutley no reason to believe that they exist anywhere but in our thoughts. Any dream plane would then be unique unto itself, not the place that we dream.

Even any evidence provided for shared dreaming wouldn't suggest that we all enter some shared dreamscape. All the palpable evidence would point to the contrary. You may think that lucidity is a type of dreaming, and lucidity has clear links to dream sharing, but in that case perhaps it is just people with more control over their minds and non-physical self.

Of course, this is all hypothetical as to 'if' dream sharing existed. I don't buy most of it anyway. (I do think that there is something to the paranormal/psychic, though. But I don't pretend to have any idea what.)

Originally Posted by The Cusp

Archetypes are formed as you learn from personal experience. We learn by making associations, and an archetype is the sum total of associations connected to one topic.

Interesting idea, makes sense. But how do you then explain certain archetypical occurances in dreams that seem to be common among many people but not per definition related to experience, like dreams of teeth falling out etc (I've had my share, lol). Just curious.

Originally Posted by Man from Modesto

He said, "Well, that is certainly true, my favorite band is called "One".

So, he confirmed this info, but he did not actually remember the shared dream itself?

Originally Posted by Xetrov

Interesting idea, makes sense. But how do you then explain certain archetypical occurances in dreams that seem to be common among many people but not per definition related to experience, like dreams of teeth falling out etc (I've had my share, lol). Just curious.

Dreams are always based on personal experience (Maybe some exceptions). The human experience has enough commonalities no matter where you are in the world. Most people have parents families, experience the same emotions, the same general situations. The dreams just aren't always literal reflections of those situations.

Tooth dreams for example are traps for your attention, or mini hell realms. Again, almost everyone has had a rotten tooth or some kind of problems. Nobody wants to lose their teeth. So you notice something wrong, your emotional concern hooks your attention on that theme, and it grows out of control. The same process in any nightmare.

Yeah, makes sense. Thanks for explaining Cusp .

I do believe it's possible but at the same time it's a very random experience, which is probably a good thing. It's already bad enough to think our phone conversations can be intercepted and our personal information can be hacked but to think people would gain a sort of unfair ability to see into other peoples most inner thoughts, could make an individual very paranoid.

Personally, I've only had one experience with a shared dream. You see, I spent the night at a friends house but it's not like we're close friends or anything. You see that night I dreamnt about being at school and it was like a carnival and each classroom had a different event. I distinctly remember the eating area having red and yellow umbrellas covering the tables.
The next morning, I didn't think to much about the dream but I still recorded it in my dream journal. I keep a regular dream journal while at the time my friend knew nothing about lucid dreaming.
A few hours after waking up, my friend said, "I had a really weird dream last night..." I was curious about her dream so of course I asked her to tell me about it. She started describing her dream as being in our school and it was like a carnival. [I'd heard about shared dreaming before but I never experienced it myself.] I asked her about the part I most vividly remembered, the eating place, and she told me about the same image I'd seen in my dream.

I have a theory, that our minds really might all be connected but their might be some sort of walls that prevent regular dreamscaping. I guess it would be like a "security" feature in our minds to prevent others from knowing all our personal information. HOWEVER, their just might be cases where this "security feature" can slip up and so shared dreaming occurs. By no means do I believe this is the absolute answer but it's just a suggestion to maybe help explain why this happens...