 Originally Posted by kingofclutch
Wow, how am I an idiot? Have you read this 27 guy's arguments? It started with him saying how I shouldn't be in this forum because I don't believe a person can just go into another person's dreams and do stuff. Then he says, "I'm not saying I believe in this stuff," which implies that he doesn't believe in it. Then he gets angry because I called him a hypocrite. Then he says that I called anyone who believes in this stuff a liar, which is not true, I said anyone who says they can do it is a liar. Then he goes back to being angry because I called him a hypocrite. Then he makes up a story that would never happen and uses that as an example to say that not ALL people who say they can go into other people's dreams are liars. Now tell me how am I the idiot?
He merely told you that you shouldn't be in here if all you're going to do is negate other's beliefs. Even if he doesn't believe in it, he can still be in here, as long as he isn't an arrogant ass to other people. The reason that this forum is generally for people who believe in it is because others would come in here and bash everybody because they viewed something as ridiculous.
I have read his replies, and they have all been relatively reasonable. I've also read yours, which you seem to forget about, as they provide many more erroneous arguments for you to rave about.
As he said, "I'm not going to say I believe in it," doesn't mean that he doesn't believe in it. Although, it is likely that this could imply that he doesn't, it could also mean that he is taking a neutral stance for the benefit of the current argument, which is whether or not you should post in here. You put words in his mouth and assumed.
Of course he should get angry when you wrongly accuse him of being a hypocrite. As explained above, he clearly wasn't a hypocrite. You, however, succeeded in being a hypocrite on the subject of hypocrisy by calling him a hypocrite, while you were the one that has been getting angry, assuming, and claiming false interpretations. You are now the hypocrite.
As for him claiming that you said that these people are liars, and for my "claiming false interpretations", here is your original post.
 Originally Posted by kingofclutch
I don't know if I understand what you are asking but I'll give it my best shot. If you mean going into someone else's dreams that lives in RL(real life) then no it is impossible. Some claim to be able to go into other people's dreams but they are liars.
As you can see, you clearly stated that you believe that anybody who claims to have the ability to dream walk is a liar. You say that you don't call all believers liars. What would they have to lie about if they only believed, but hadn't the experience? They could lie about believing, which would be a worthless thing to lie about. You are also ready to conceive that believers are not liars, while those who claim to experience are. If this is the case, then you are highly illogical in you means of interpreting illogicalities. Belief is nothing if there are no results, which would be dream walking. If somebody was a believer in dream walking, then they would believe that it is possible, which is just as illogical, from your viewpoint, as claiming to have the ability. Otherwise, it would only be acknowledgment that it could be possible because it hasn't yet been scientifically rebutted. By calling those who claim to dream walk, you indirectly claim that believers are believing in a falsity, which means that you believe that they are also false.
The situation that 27 gave could very easily happen. From external stimuli, if two people are near each other, they could incubate the same dream from an occurrence that they both experienced. If this happened, then they could have very similar dreams, which could result in confusion. Then, they really could believe that they had a shared dream, which would not be lying, but misconception. You failed to make this connection, because you treaded on the specifics of the example.
This, sir, is how you are an idiot.
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