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      Anti-Logic?????

      I've been seeing many people on this board who seem to be against the idea of science, logic, and reason. Can I ask how the thought that logic is close-minded, moronic, "you-name-it" was obtained without the use of logic in the first place?
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      I haven't dug too deeply into the topics against logic but I'm assuming they hail from the same direction as topics about perception and this whole "non-duality" that is being discussed all over the board.

      But, aye, so as to not make false assumptions, I'll just join the above question and wait for an answer.

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      Science and logic, are just relative inferences into personal experience and attempted interpretation of another.

      Theology is everything that we do not experience, but that we claim to 'know'.

      Science, is based on theology.

      Theology, is based on inference.

      Inference, is based on belief.
      Last edited by ClouD; 11-08-2007 at 01:45 PM.
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      Quote Originally Posted by ClouD View Post

      Science, is based on theology.




      Oh hai there BS.

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      How is science based on theology? An example of theology is a man feeling happy and believing a talking rabbit named Garathoudus made him happy, no logic needed. While an example of science, is when one person sees pushing a button turns a light on, and another person sees pushing a button turns a light on, so they then conclude pushing that button turns the light on, obviously, logic is very much needed. There could be another reason for the light turning on, but after a number of tests constantly being conclusive, narrowing down the odds of it being Garathoudus, the talking rabbit, turning on the light, it can be generally decided that pushing the button will turn the light on.

      We can never be certain of the EXACTS of something, but we can do our best to narrow it down with science. After it gets narrowed down, unless something shows us our belief on the idea needs to be widened again, we have no reason to re-widen it.

      How are you finding the keys to type your posts? How are you turning on your computer to come to the website? How are you getting electricity to power your computer? All with logic. If you sat wondering if the computer is really getting electricity from the power outlet or from Thor, God of Thunder, you'd never get anything done.

      Do something today without logic, like trying to eat without putting food in your mouth, or try to turn a light on without flicking the switch and see what happens. If you didn't use any logic at all, you'd probably be a vegetable.
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      Theology is everything that we do not experience, but that we claim to 'know'.

      I meant in that context
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      You are right, we cannot be certain of facts of everything.

      Yet, the logic that 'founded' science, is what perpetuates it.

      Inference, that is.

      We can never know anything, if we cannot theorise that 1+1=2.
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      Quote Originally Posted by ClouD View Post
      Theology is everything that we do not experience, but that we claim to 'know'.

      Just no.


      "Theology is a term first used by Plato in The Republic (book ii, chap 18). The the term is a compounded from two Greek words theos (god) and logos (rational utterance). It has been defined as reasoned discourse about God"

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      Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal_Apprentice View Post
      Can I ask how the thought that logic is close-minded, moronic, "you-name-it" was obtained without the use of logic in the first place?
      Are you expecting a logical answer to this?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mark75 View Post
      Are you expecting a logical answer to this?

      If you care to show me something without using logic, be my most honored guest.

      (PK stands for psychokinesis which is something like telekinesis, but a little broader, and RV stands for remote viewing.)
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      Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal_Apprentice View Post

      If you care to show me something without using logic, be my most honored guest.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Scatterbrain View Post
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      Quote Originally Posted by Scatterbrain View Post
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