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      Relativity VS. Quantum Physics

      From what I do understand. And in the whole order of theories, it is not much, But:
      The Theory of general relativity has a certain set of rules and boundries, gudelines if you will, that it follows.
      Quantum Physics has a very turbulant and unstable set of principles.
      To get the two theoris to work together or coencide would be the breakthrough in science that physicist are in surch of. although they have come up with what they call a string theory they really are a long way from any solid theories.

      My point is-------- What other realm do to opposite worlds try to coexist? Lucid dreaming. The unstable realm of the subconcious and the stable world of the concious. Coud there be a link?

      Just a thought

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      very interesting, i think there could definatly be a link between the two. lucid dreaming alot of the time youll see will predict something that is going to happen in the "real" world.
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      and another thought, lucid dreaming is like the link from concious reallity and Astral projection, for example: when im LDing and i try to AP , its a hell of alot easier, happens almost instantly, so yes i think your subconcious reality reacts to other realms of existance or other realitys if you will.
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      Originally posted by incubusfunkman
      and another thought, lucid dreaming is like the link from concious reallity and Astral projection, for example: when im LDing and i try to AP , its a hell of alot easier, happens almost instantly, so yes i think your subconcious reality reacts to other realms of existance or other realitys if you will.
      I have not had any expieriance with astral projection. In part because I have a hard time blieving in it. But I am coming around. The more LD's I expieriance and the things I read are very eye opening. I try to keep an open mind to everything.
      -Thanks for the comments incubusfunkman!

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      I do beleive my experiences in alternate worlds that seem very stable/have their own timelines is attirbuted to quantum tunneling.

      Wormholes exist naturally in the universe, though they are very small, only large enough for perhaps a few subatomic particles to pass through and they dont last long either.

      Our spirits are energy, they have no mass, I think that our spirits are able to pass through these wormholes with ease.

      Most of relativistic theories break down when you get into the quantum realm, it happens with time as well. There is a point when time gets weird, its calld plank time here is a more eloquent explination

      "The Planck length is the scale at which classical ideas about gravity and space-time cease to be valid, and quantum effects dominate. This is the ‘quantum of length’, the smallest measurement of length with any meaning.

      And roughly equal to 1.6 x 10^-35 m or about 10^-20 times the size of a proton.

      The Planck time is the time it would take a photon travelling at the speed of light to across a distance equal to the Planck length. This is the ‘quantum of time’, the smallest measurement of time that has any meaning, and is equal to 10^-43 seconds. No smaller division of time has any meaning. With in the framework of the laws of physics as we understand them today, we can say only that the universe came into existence when it already had an age of 10^-43 seconds."

      Science has proven that perception has an effect on the outcomes of quantum desicions.

      With that said, this is how the spirit interacts with the physical worl through our brain. The brain is like a remote control and like a remote control they work on a certain resonance our spirits are exactly in tune with this resonance and it is able to interact with certain quantum desicions within the brain. Now you ask.. well if thats so why arent there more telikinetic people running around?
      Our spirit is interacting with only a few subatomic particles within the neurons and it is doing so on a timescale of less than planck time. The reson is at such a small timescale the spirit is able to enact ENOURMOUS amounts of power to make the changes nessesary in a stable manner.

      In order to move something else we would have to be in complete tune with it and also have the power nessesary to interact with it on a scale of seconds.... This is what the body is for =P its a very good amplification device much more efficient this way

      So pretty much The spirit interacts with the brain in order to interact in this world.

      In the dream world we are JUST our spirit and the nature of that reality is more related to quantum science than relativistic sciencea nd thats why we have more control.


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      With that said ( very well informative I might add) - Thanks Serinanth! Why the body then? the shell. What is the point. And where does it go when the body passes.
      I guess what I am trying to say is that it seems that your spirit and energy are mearly hindered by our physical being. No?
      Also what can we evolve into..............

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      DING! DING DING!

      Your thinking is right on. The body does hinder us, just think of our capabilities in the dream, Also the fact that many of us have experienced time compression in that we experience a long period of time while only a short time passes in the waking world. The dream world itself, many people see it more clearly and vividly than they do this world. Our senses are dulled by the physical bod.

      And what we can evolve into... I duno... but I am excited at the idea =D also why I do not fear death. I know that we are immortal beings, the body is transient. as for the why? I think this is just like a babystep kinda thing? we are young, need to grow, and to learn, I think what we are experiencing now coupld be a training ground of sorts or perhaps what we are now could be considered the larval stage...? I duno im speculating now =D
      "A knight is sworn to valor.
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      His blade defends the helpless.
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      His wrath undoes the wicked."

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      I have often pondered over the possibility of that someone coming along that is extrodinaryly gifted. Just as Einstien or Stephen Hawkins. Or a Bobby Fisher. Thay all are exceptional in their own way. Or someone who has a photographic memory or autism. However..... This person will be the one who can bring the subconcious to the concious as opposed to the other way around. Someone you does not have that barrier that we all have. Most likely what you are talking about as far as the future and what stage we are in, Serinanth.

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