Quote Originally Posted by blade5x View Post
Ok here's somethings I've gathered over the past year. When I first learned about lucid dreaming, I also learned about astral projection.

Most WILDs begin as ethereal projections. Ethereal plane is supposed to be an overlay of the physical plane. Its characteristics are supposed to be based on the energy of matter I believe. Characteristics of a ethereal projection: you feel very heavy, have difficulty moving around, going through objects is very difficult, sight is pretty blurry. This is the lowest form of a projection that one would be able to achieve (or closest to the physical plane).

Then there is the transition (not sure if there is a plane for this) between the ethereal plane and astral plane. Again, you are in your room/house, neighborhood - all familiar places that closesly represent the physical plane. Except this time you can move around easily, have clear vision, and may even run into other beings. Dreams take place here.

Then there is the astral plane. Dreams that have no resemblence to any place you've been before take place here. Not exactly sure how to get here from the ethereal plane, but one way I read was trying to get sucked through a vortex of some sort, or by "raising your frequency" - everytime I try this, I get sent back into sleep paralysis.

Then there's some other plane above the astral plane, which I didn't bother reading about.

I'm not saying any of this is true, this is just what I have gathered. Most of my WILDs would fit into the "transition" where I'm in my neighborhood pretty much. I've tried jumping through mirrors - and have been sucked through tunnels rapidly, but I've never reached the end of them. I've also had those eps where I feel very heavy, and can barely move. Have never had any validations yet.

It'll be very hard to validate an OBE because there are no cases where you actually travel the physical plane. The ethereal plane is connected to the physical plane, but there is also the "fact" that thoughts to manifest in the ethereal plane, so if you look a card on a table, if you or your subconscious has any "thought" as to what it might be, that can affect what you see. Supposidly you can only travel the physical out of body when you die in the form a ghost, but I'd imagine it must really suck to be a ghost, because when you look at the pattern, there's: really cool astral plane (awesome dream) >> pretty cool ethereal plane (awesome dream but common setting) >> shitty ethereal projection (blurry, slow, heavy) >> ???
According to my research this is really just the misconception of early pagans to explain their natural world. They even imagined up elemental creatures that fought amongst themselves invisibly to explain phenomena such as lightning. Granted, there is still a lot of evidence of an etheral plane and I have at least two friends who swear on their families that they'd been to the astral plane. I think the possibility of a multi-layered parallel universe is true, but I think dreams are just the natujral evolutionary solution as to what to do with your consciousness when your body needs rest.