NO LOGIC!!!!

Trying to make things such as astral projection and shared dreaming more logical by trying to give a more scientific or more believable explination only leads to counterproduction in developing these skills.

You see, you cannot try to incorporate science into such processes. Why? Because science has not evolved to the point where it can categorize such phonoemina. That is why scientists don't believe it.

Science cannot even detect the human soul much less begin to understand it's uses, it's applications, and it's link to the mind and the body.

The soul is an entity like no other. The mind and the body can be seen, but the soul cannot. Couple this with the attitude of religious freaks and other accurances scientists come to the conclusion that it does not exist. And even when a scientist believes that it does exist because of their scientific way of thinking they won't ever find an answer. They're looking for an answer that suit's science, when one does not exist.

All of this leads to the creation of a limited paradigm on the scientists part making all efforts on the scientists part to believe such things futile. All research on NDE and OOBE's have nothing to show for it accept for the accounts of what happened. Because they cannot bar from their inadiquite scientific method they cannot see what is before they're eyes.

In contrast, a random openminded person who simply doesn't ask how does it happens but how to do the process can achieve the rpocess with small but relative ease.

That is why I am asking everybody at DreamView.com to stop being skeptical or trying to give a scientific explination for such things as shared dreaming or OOBEs.

Instead of asking
"How could this possibly happen or work?"
"What exactly happens to make these processes work?"

Ask
"How do I do this?"

That's all you need to do. I've spoken with a couple of, what I would call, OOBE and shared dreaming masters today (and yes, I told them about this site). And what do I find in them hat I don't find in any of you here?

When they first started out and learned to lucid dream the only questions
they had pretained to how the process was done not how the process worked.

All you have to do is
a.) Believe in the process. Knowing and believing is two different things. Most people "know" about shared dremaing but you are hesitant to "believe" in shared dreaming.

b.) Understand how easy it is to do and that your are simply reawekening a dorment skill in which EVERYBODY can do.

c.)being hypnotised into doing it is always a plus
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Because of my previous adventures in NLP, photoreading, and hypnosis I had a very open minded and confident look at lucid dreaming. I used hypnosis and reality checks to guage lucid dreaming and in just three days the process was mastered. I think the remembering your dreams step is bullshit because all you have to do to remember the lucid dream you just had is tell yourself while in the lucid dream, "I'm going to remember this."

I haven't had an OOBE or shared dream because I haven't tried but I know if I did it would occur.

Anyway I hope this litte eye opener did some good at changing your point of view on shared dreaming and OOBEs.

Well Seeker I finally posted something. I hope your happy now.