Quote Originally Posted by bendstringz View Post
If your a christian then I wouldt recomend any type of meditation,exept meditating on the word of God.There are many lies assosiated with meditation.The guides are demons diguised as some heavenly form.I understand you are at a christian school,that doesnt mean your a christian persay,Just be carefull opening doors that are extremely hard to close.And lucid dreaming is not the same as astral projection or meditation.[/b]
Heheheh.

Ahhh, I love Beyond Dreaming - it's stuff like this that makes my day. I'm in fits of laughter right now.

Quote Originally Posted by bendstringz View Post
People have claimed to have permanently raised their consciousness through lucid dreaming. Some have said that they ended up realizing the great truth about reality, that it is a dream. They say that they have awoken from the dream and that describing that state of consciousness is impossible because it is so different from the world we know. It exists in a completely different format and cannot be described in any kind of detail at all.[/b]
I'm suprised at you, Universal. The explanation and description given by such people of "higher consciousness" is the exact same one given of God:

Believer: "It exists at a higher level. It transcends understanding."
Rational: "But if you can't explain it or describe it, what the hell are you on about, you nut?"
Believer: "You just haven't reached the level of understanding neccessary to get what I'm talking about."

Yet, you seem to be giving this higher consciousness stuff way more credence than God.