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Soooo... has anyone ever experimented with this herb? I bought 2 cups of it, it should be arriving soon. I'm not sure if I should smoke some or make tea. I'm going to be making a dream pillow too.
I'd like some first hand experiences if you have any.
Thanks,
Trocious
i was just given a bunch of mugwort a few days ago. two nights ago, i smoked a joint of it and i remembered a dream that night. (i've always had shitty recall, but i do remember dreams occasionally, so who knows if it had anything to do with the mugwort or not?) last night, i smoked a bowl of it (much less than i smoked the night before). nothing out of the ordinary happened. i didn't remember any dreams. but i also got about two hours less sleep last night than the night before, so that might have something to do with it as well. i haven't tried a tea or a dream pillow yet. how did mugwort work out for you, trocious?
it was very interesting... my dreams were stranged, i was up in a floating tree house. my friend was dripping water into dirt to make holes for some reason. I was yelling at him because I figured it'd all fall apart and we'd fall from the treehouse.
then another night i got hella drunk and smoke hella mugwort. i went to bed at about 11-12. I don't remember well. I got up at around 8 but kept going back to sleep and waking up 30-60 mins later and remembered a lot of dreams. I didn't write them down or anything but it was just interesting to think about them. I must have remembered about 20 dreams, a few of them being semi lucid. I did a reality check trying to jump to a second story crosswalk in a mall but only gt halfway up. I concluded i wasn't dreaming >.> I GOT ABOUT 10 FEET IN THE AIR!! damn.
i'm going to try drinking tea and making a dream pillow soon.
I drank mugwort tea and made just a small sachet to put in my pillow. Im not sure if drinking the tea did much but having the sachet in my pillow truly worked with my recall. However, I wonder if it was due to the power of suggestion. Either way it worked for me. I just bought some more mugwort as well as some lavender today. I am going to drink a mugwort,hibiscus,lavender tea as well as take B6 with a sachet in my pillow. After all that effort, it should do something. I am working on my second beer though so I dunno. Although, I have had some pretty vivid dream after knocking back a few. We'll see in the morning.
sounds good.. i take b6 daily, i need to get some lavender and chamomile to make a real dream pillow
It was always my understanding that Mugwort assisted with prophetic dreams and astral projection among other things.
I've never heard of anyone smoking it though. I'm not sure if I would try it. I also read where if you drink the tea of mugwort it would help you with divination where sleeping with it under your pillow helps with dream prophecies and next to you while you sleep for astral projection.
I've never tried Mugwort, but this seems to be related with this sort of dream herb experimentation. I smoked Amanita Mushrooms and had an interesting lucid dream where I talked to a friend who was babbling about Aruba.
I've eaten them several times and have gotten intense dreams after blacking out to the normal world (I could not be roused from the deep state I was in)
These dreams were weird, but not what I would call visionary or anything like that. I heard laughing from all directions, but ti seemed to be a mile away, it was as if I was on display.
i made some mugwort tea the other night. i filled a tea ball full of mugwort, threw it in the tea pot, and boiled it for about 15 minutes. then i poured the mugwort tea over a mint tea bag and added a bunch of honey. it really didn't taste all that bad. not something you'd drink purely for enjoyment, but definitely not horrible. anyway, that night, i remembered two different dreams. of course, i was too lazy/tired when i first woke up to write them down, and consequently lost most of it. now i basically remember one brief image from each dream. in the first one, i am walking down the street with 3-5 of my friends. maybe swaggering is a better word than walking. it felt sort of "Reservoir Dogs-style," you know when you're walking with a bunch of people, and you all know that you are the shit, and it feels cool just to be walking down the street, and you feel like everyone who sees you knows that you are all the coolest shit. in the second one, i am in bed, comletely under the covers. i don't remember if i had a flashlight, or if there was just light. anyway, i am writing a detailed description of my first dream in my dream journal. later that day, IRL, i actually wondered if i dreamed that, or if i actually wrote something in my dream journal. i checked. i just dreamed it.
Interesting, how vivid were you dreams during the dreaming? You can remember emotions and things like that but not specific events? Would you describe the events in the dreams as more emotional or physical?Quote:
Originally posted by kage23
i made some mugwort tea the other night. i filled a tea ball full of mugwort, threw it in the tea pot, and boiled it for about 15 minutes. then i poured the mugwort tea over a mint tea bag and added a bunch of honey. it really didn't taste all that bad. not something you'd drink purely for enjoyment, but definitely not horrible. anyway, that night, i remembered two different dreams. of course, i was too lazy/tired when i first woke up to write them down, and consequently lost most of it. now i basically remember one brief image from each dream. in the first one, i am walking down the street with 3-5 of my friends. maybe swaggering is a better word than walking. it felt sort of "Reservoir Dogs-style," you know when you're walking with a bunch of people, and you all know that you are the shit, and it feels cool just to be walking down the street, and you feel like everyone who sees you knows that you are all the coolest shit. in the second one, i am in bed, comletely under the covers. i don't remember if i had a flashlight, or if there was just light. anyway, i am writing a detailed description of my first dream in my dream journal. later that day, IRL, i actually wondered if i dreamed that, or if i actually wrote something in my dream journal. i checked. i just dreamed it.
it seems like, even though i hardly remember them at all now, that, during the actual dreaming, it was quite vivid. in fact, i now remember, upon first waking up, noticing how vivid they had been. i think the entire dreams were probably more physical events than emotional events, however, when i only remember a very brief image from a dream, it frequently has an emotional quality to it. like walking down the street. i only remember 1, maybe 2 of the friends i was with, i don't remember where we were going, what we were talking about, or anything like that, but i do remember how we felt. usually, when i remember dreams, i either remember a series of events/images, or i remember one event/image along with accompanying emotion.
Placebo effects anyone? Are there any scientific studies with empirical proof?
i don't discount the possibility of placebo effects. but i also don't discount the possibility of real effects. there are so many different variables that i tend to think that it would be quite difficult to do an empirical scientific study.
Scientific studies should be vigorous enough to know which variables to control :P
And in any case, based on the above results, the herb seems to only increase the dream's vividness.
Hey all, I'm new to this board... I'm thinking about picking up some mugwort today from a Wiccan/Alchemy store... it's very cheap so it's not a huge deal if it doesn't work. But I think it would be interesting for a scientific study to be done with it, and I don't think it would be that difficult to determine if there were genuine effects.
You'd just have to have a group of subjects sleeping with different kinds of herbs, some that are believed to have effects, and some that aren't, and perhaps some artificially constructed material designed to look and smell like mugwort to act as a placebo. Then there would have to be two studies... one where the subjects are told that the herbs they are sleeping with are designed to improve recall, and another where they are not told what the herbs are supposed to do at all. If mugwort truly has a beneficial effect on dream recall, it should statistically prove to work under both circumstances.
When making teas, do not boil the herb. Steep it in water that you just boiled. Putting the herb in boiling water evaporates all the volatile oils out of the plant material, and the volatile oils are usually where the fun/usefull chemicals are located.Quote:
i made some mugwort tea the other night. i filled a tea ball full of mugwort, threw it in the tea pot, and boiled it for about 15 minutes.[/b]
I've tried out quite alot of Herbal Teas.
I once bought 100Grams of Mugwort and 100 Grams of dired chopped Wormwood ( Alsem:The ''Absinth'' herb ). I have one Wormwood plant growing in my Garden. it's huge.
Mugwort(Artemisia Vulgaris) and Wormwood(Artemisia Absinthium) are in the same family of plants. They both contain a volutile Oil called ''Thujone''. It's Structure is Almost Similar to that of THC. So I'd say Wormwood is a much more potent plant than Mugwort since it has the same but them much higher levels of Thujone oil.
I've made teas:
Wormwood(freshly picked) + green tea
A mix of Chamomille, Lavender, Peppermint and Valerian + Wormwood + Mugwort.
Kinnick Kinnick tea (a native american smoking mixture)
I've smoked herbal joints:
Kinnick Kinnick alone and +weed
Mugwort alone and +weed
Wormwood alone and +weed
Wormwood + Hash
Wormwood+Kinnick Kinnick+Mugwort+Weed.
These herbs all seem to have slight and very subtile PsychoActive effects, but since at the time of the experimenting I wasn't nececairly into ''how it would affect my dreams'' as I was more into ''how could I make my self Sleepy or drowsy with herbs.
Now I'm going to do a couple of experiments with Wormwood, Mugwort and Weed once I can get my hands on like 3 bottles of Ethanol Cleaning Alcohol. I could easily Extract the Pure Thujone from the Wormwoord PlantMaterial with Ethanol Alcohol. And Extract many other plant's special substances the same way and have the Special Substances in it's purest form as your Residue: This is the same way Hash is often made.
I might try making a mixture of Weed(THC) and WormWood(Thujone) and the Resulting Hashi Residue would be a Mixture of THC and Thujone: 2 substances that are ALMOST similair in molecular structure. Interresting these Herbal Alkaloids and oils :wink:
I think the pure oils and alkaloids extracted from plant material will, obviously, be much more potent that just smoking/drinking tea of some dried mugwort, wormwoord or whatever herb.
When I have obtained Ethanol Alcohol I will Try making pure wormwood-Thujone extract.
Then try and figure out which ingestion method gives most effect:
*Smoking the pure substances
*Making a tea out of the pure substance (Easy when it's solvable in Water: Put it in a Cup, just add Boiling water, Stir and let it sit for a while)
*Smoking the substance while drinking the Thujone Tea.
I just got back from a metaphysical store with a four ounce bag of mugwort. As I was walking to my car I realized it was pretty stupid of me not to ask for a bag, because it sure looked a whole lot like I was carrying enough marijuana to put me in prison for a decade. I have a vaporizor from my pothead days so I'm going to try using some with that tonight, but other than that I'll make a sachet and put it under my pillow and see if that helps with dream recall. Maybe I'll try some tea sometime too.
Anyone have any recommendations for how to use it for dreamwork? I suppose if it's nothing more than a placebo I could rub it on my cheeks or something, but assuming it has legitimate value for dreamwork, I might as well use it in established ways.
Mugwort: as soon as I read about it's supposed Dream potentiating effects I bought 100grams of it at a local herbalist store.
I put a sachet of it under my pillow, I smoked it, I made a yucki-bah tea out of it. Non of it seemed to affect my dreams in ANY way whatsoever.
I've still got a huge bag of it, and a bag of Wormwood too:
I'm going to make an EXTRACT of the dried plantmaterial and try smoking it, making teas out of it...etc.
Hopefully that will be more potent. Otherwise I'll leave the experimenting with it to others.
The first couple of days I noticed some improvement in dream recall, but since then nothing significant. I'll make a better sachet eventually, right now I just stuffed some in an old sock. But I'm thinking placebo right now. At least it was cheap.
how do you make EXTRACT out of it? :eek::DQuote:
Originally Posted by SKA
and where did you get that wormwood? :D isn't that the one which makes you hallucigen?
Are you also smoking marijuana habitually? I heard that smoking weed stops your brain from hitting it's REM cycle during sleep. Is that true?Quote:
Originally Posted by kage