Thread: I dreamt of future then proved it to myself!!!!

my friend and i have a theory that deja-vu is caused by dreaming of the future. she has had a dream that seemed very normal and nondescript, and then, months later, been in the exact situation in life that she dreamed about. i think that much of the time, when deja-vu happens, we don't consciously remember the dream that caused it. but, since you have 6 or so dreams per night, and most people remember only 1 or 2 if they're lucky, it's not surprising that we usually wouldn't remember the dream that caused the deja-vu. whenever i have deja-vu, it's always very small details that don't really seem to matter that causes it. the kind of details that you would notice in a dream. so this is not quite what you are talking about, but very similiar.

as for training yourself to develop it, i have no idea!

developing it? is a crackin question hey!........... yup I am a big dejavouer too

and one thing that stikes me is it turns up when I am in special places. So this makes me wonder about the idea that at some stage you can kind of look at your life before it happens? and the real key moments stay with you and as you live your life you get a reminder of these as you pass through them.........

obviously this is unprovable I as someone who has dreamt of the future have to remain open minded as to the reasons, and this is one possiblity of what maybe happening.

For instance I travelled on an amazing journey through the Australian dessert called Earthdream where we protested agaist Urainium mining that happens out there for OUR weapons of mass destruction!. we set up partys and did many great things. Possibly if I look back on it the most purpossful section of my life so far,
During this time I had countless dejarvous and dream precognition which was echoed amongst the other guys on the journey. Also it was a part of my life that has truly inspired me and directed alot of what has followed......

So I ask anyone who has preconuitive dreams........... if this is something that rings true of you? Do you have these dreams about special or important moments in your life? and if you go through queit stages.... does this mean you are not doing the right kind of things? or are not in the right place?

Originally posted by earthtriber
developing it? is a crackin question hey!........... yup I am a big dejavouer too

and one thing that stikes me is it turns up when I am in special places. So this makes me wonder about the idea that at some stage you can kind of look at your life before it happens? and the real key moments stay with you and as you live your life you get a reminder of these as you pass through them.........

this is a nice idea, but i personally don't think it is true. this is because whenever i have dejavu, it is always about seemingly random, unimportant things. of course, it's always about things that i know absolutely for sure could not have happened before in the real world, but it is still always random, unimportant things. so if i was able to look at my life before it happened, i chose some pretty weird/stupid things to remember! no, i prefer the theory that we occasionally dream about the future, and this can lead to dejavu. although i don't think that all dejavu is necessarily caused by dreams, but at least some of it.

well the other theory I have stumbled on in my time is that a kind of six second delay between sight and mind that you see it and confuse your self into believing that youve seen it before but that just dont cut it if you phone someone up and ask them about the golden bed sheets they have on their bed?

for me it is about amazing things and places but also about mundane things.
another question then might be have you been to amazing places that your inner soul desires? and I don't mean that rudely I just mean that if you did something like that prehaps it may happen. Infact what about if all your precognutive dreaming was leading you HERE to this very point in time!!!!! that goes for non posters to!!!!

this is interesting.

i get deja vu almost every time my mom says "six" in conversation...although this likely has nothing to do with dreams.

actually, i do get deja vu quite alot though. now that i'm remembering and recording about 2-3 dreams a night, i'll have an objective record to look back on.

i'll definitely remember to search my dream journal if a deja vu seems [b]really [/b ]familiar

It is definately a good idea to keep a dream diary and to search for connections between dream and future reality.

I have had many theories about this. One of them is that there is something fundamentally incorrect about our current theory of time and motion in the physical world. It is believed by many that our subconscious minds are constantly in the 'dream state' and that it is only our conscious minds that fall into sleep and reawaken. When we are awake in the physical world our subconscious minds are still functioning as they do when we dream, only we are unaware of the dream plain of existence whilst awake. The subconscious mind itself appears to react with the physical world by the channeling of associations (memories either good or bad) to our waking minds, based on what sensory data is available in our environment - e.g. I see a wasp and feel afraid as I remember being stung by a wasp as a child.

I think it could be possible that the subconscious/ dreaming mind is ahead of the waking mind when it comes to events occuring in the physical world as all human events in the physical world are created by the subconscious mind's emotional and associative influence on the actions of people. Of course this may not explain the precognition of natural disasters, but would tie together with Jung's theory of the collective unconscious, precognition of events in our own lives and deja vu.

I know this all sounds a bit long winded.

Would be interested to know what you all think of this, or if you have your own ideas about precog/ deja vu events.

Happy dreaming!

certainly interesting but does not prove much when it comes to me phoning someone whos house I had never been to, and asking her if she had golden bed sheets?

you know otherwise I would agree whole heartedly that those are strong theorys....

Infact I might add that I have to remain open minded about all possiblitys and I am also very excepting that the truth may never surface. But it is certainly Interesting to connect with others who have had simaler experiances. Because more and more I find it is not as rare as I first thought Infact Most people probaly refuse to talk of it or even admit it to themselves.... Choosing to forget it rather than except or face awkard truths..... Just a theory?

It would be great to hear of other examples

Coincidence.

i met this guy once. He was looking at me, and I swore I knew him from some place. He seemed to be trying to figure out who I was, not just being creepy and staring. When the workshop was over, we fell into step leaving the place, and i asked him if i knew him from somewhere. Our town was small but we couldn't think of any common friends or activities. and he was really really super tall and I couldn't imagine having met him and not remembering him.
But he asked me to coffee. And i said yes.
So we went to coffee. but the coffee house's pipes had frozen and cracked in the night, So we went to his place. Books stacked everywhere - which I thought to be pretty cool. And he came out of his room wearing this long flowing outfit. Like a scorcerer. And he sets up mah-jong tiles - we're playing on the floor. And I am looking at the tiles. And I start having mad deja-vus. The angle of the tiles. Him. The way he is sitting. The books everywhere. The shimmer of his clothing.
And I recall the dream. In the dream: We play mah-jong. He lets me win. Then it fast-forwarded to several months later - my hair grew longer - and we are swimming in a giant swimming pool with his grandmother and he grabs me and kisses my forehead and says "Forever." which P.S. I don't know how to swim.

So I'm like "Woah - I dreamt this!" and I tell him about the deja-vus but not about the swimming and stuff. And he says "I know."
And I'm like "What?"
And he's like "I brought you to me"
And I'm like "What?"
And he's like "I cast a spell and asked the gods to bring me a woman with warmth. I told them to influence you suddily and arrange for us to meet."
I'm like "You TOLD them?"

Yeah - it creeped me out!
It turned out he was a "Spell-crafter" and has written some half a dozen books on spells he had concocted and they were published and everything.
Now I was raised pagan, so I believe him, but I am not down with my freedom being infringed upon - that is when my "warmth" turns nuclear winter. So I told him no more - and we never got to the swimming.

Ewwww . . .

Originally posted by Eric Estrada
Coincidence.

Golden sheets............ not white? or blue? or pink?......... Gold.

infact maybe that the word coincidence exist's in the first place kinda means there is no such thing?........... think about it

so maybe it could be that in your case anya that the dream was like a warning or even the catalyst that helped you cut to the chase?

its truely a wild world.......

Originally posted by Eric Estrada
Coincidence.

...and the fact that you didn't feel the need to counter any of the above claims with your own, detailed, opinions: coincedence too, no?

In fact, deja vu rarely has to do with past dreams. Scientists have proven that it is a brain "short circuit", for lack of a better word. When you see something, your brain registers it for future reference somewhere in the recesses of your brain. Occasionally, when you see something, your brain will take the image, and it "speeds" ahead of your thought process, and registers itself in your memory. Therefore, when you see something and get deja vu, it is actually a memory from fractions of a secong before. This can be confirmed by just looking and analyzing previous cases of deja vu that you have had. For instance, When I have been on trips to places I have never been before (i.e. : Texas, Tennessee, Missouri...), and I get deja vu, it is obvious that I haven't seen this, whatever it is, before. It is usually insignificant things, such as an image of a room, or a tree, or rocks or whatever. Although no one can prove that dreams do not have anything, it is certain that this is also true.

I was sat next to a Nero scientist the other day at a wedding she seems to say to me that they know next to nothing about the most simple functions of the brain? yes they understand some of the readable patterns through various gauges that they can scan it with.
But I and She for that matter would strongly disagree about the idea that they decided that dajarvous is a short circet of the brain...... and i look forward to reading links that take me to that argument.

A am all into coincidence have you seen anything about fractals now there is the best coincidence of them all

It would be much more fun to read examples about peoples experience than it is to read about people who don't believe or even want to believe....... I don't need anyone to prove me wrong I know what happened and really want to learn how to think about developing it as a skill ?

There it is, Earthtriber... Read it, and you will see it. If you are skeptic of the source, search deja vu on any online encyclopedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deja_Vu

Particularly that part: "Neurophysiological specialist Stephanie Warn (based out of San Francisco) has dedicated research on the subject matter. Her current conclusion is that déjà vu is merely the brain pulsing at an exponential rate which causes a person to recall something he or she saw the moment before."

Actually it would have been 'precognition' only if the golden silk sheets, the pine wood floor and indeed the girl did not already exist. But all of this was already in existence when you dreamed of it. You were seeing something that you would see later, but that is not precognition. Yes, it indicates that some Higher Knowing Collective Mind either knows that you will meet with this young lady, or that it is more or less engineering such a meeting. If the dream was merely precognitive, then you could not be entirely certain whether the young lady is important to you or not... that the dream was only showing you the future, and perhaps randomly. But I rather suppose that a Higher Influence had arranged to familiarize you with this special young lady so that you would be encouraged to pursue the relationship. This goes way beyond mere precognition.

well Leo Volont

i figure that would be the way i would feel it is and in fact just knowing that kind of helps the idea of developing it as a skill..........

and bamf

I hear you but i cant help but get drawn to the last quote of that page

References to the experience of déjà vu are also found in literature of the past, indicating it is not a new phenomenon. However, in laboratory settings, it is extremely difficult to invoke the déjà vu experience, making it a subject with few empirical studies.

but however it is all fansinating and I look forward to finding more out..........

My body tells me that there is a difference between deja vu and precognitive deja vu. i tend to not differentiate, but they come from within different places of my mind and they give me different sorts of tingles.
It's like when I eat some food out of my fridge, and later I have a stomach ache and even though I ate some bread and some cheese and some strawberries, my body is accute enough to tell me that it was definitely the strawberries that did it.
I think we have very sensitive and specific senses and awarenesses, and my body tells me that while deja vu may be benign, when I have dreamt it - and I know I have - my senses go crazy. And it is most definitely something different.
This does not feel like nerves short-circuiting or back-firing or however you would put it.
This feels like "hold unto your butts."
It can be a rush.

I was in a dream, I flipped a coin, it was heads

I woke up and flipped a coin, it was heads

Coincidence, maybe, but maybe something more.

Your events could be partly coincidence, and partly soemthing else.

You met a girl, could have happened anyway,
When you called her ahead of time and asked her about her room(which could have validated the story) and confirm some of the facts of the story, she says that you were right. Now how many colors do people paint their front rooms of people houses? And how many colors do they make bed sheets in?
THen when you got there, there were people all around chatting. Would a girl normally invite you to her house after only one phone call and never being on a date whenever she was all alone, or more likely to invite you over when there were several people over.
And the pine floorboards, not astroturf, or dirt, i mean, how many types of flooring are there.

But I will admit the pine floor boards are a little odd, are you sure you didnt change your memory? or simply insert the pinefloor boards into your memory(and when I say are you sure, Im not really asking, becasue you most likely wouldnt have consciously done it, so you wouldn't remember even if you had)

A series of events, that just so happened to somewhat coincide with a dream you had onetime. That is what I see it as, but clearly you will never believe that so...

(Sorry, I have to sleep, so this post will not undergo any editing or reviewing)

I also had a deja vu that lasted about 2minutes you should check out my thread to get the full idea about it.

http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21422

I find it hard to believe that it is a delayed memory reaction because I was able to finish a conversation for people.

You know now anya has mentioned it about the kind of chemical rush is so true!other times that this has happened to me it seems bit like taking acid a total change in adrenilin and a strange yet comfortable feeling spreads....
I am clean as a whistle these days
And i would not decribe it as the same as lsd but it gives crew the idea.

by the way since posting on this site I would say my dreams are being recalled frequently and lucidity is starting to ocurr again

thanks to everyone for there imput to this thread so nice to know that I am not alone

my theory on this is that we have all of our precognitive dreams in the first few hours of sleep, then in the later stages we start having random dreams

Originally posted by Oneironaut


...and the fact that you didn't feel the need to counter any of the above claims with your own, detailed, opinions: coincedence too, no?

or perhaps I felt it spoke for itself and I felt there could be enough rational thought left in the world to deny such silly claims as "pre-cognitive dreams" - perhaps I was wrong.

Anyways, a similar color is basically shit. It all comes down to how your subconcious percieves things. Think of it, gold/orange - a commonly used color scheme. Your mind could obviously come up with a logical scenario that "could" happen in real life, and it did. Precognition is a silly way to explain something like this. There were about 3 things from your dream that matched what happened in real life... wow, it must have been a precognitive dream. A likely thought in the mind of the delusional.