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      Fake Shared Dream With a Person You Know

      Boundary between real shared dream and fake shared dream might be very small here.

      When two people who know each other, try to get a shared dream they might get it, but is it really a shared dream? In most cases no.

      Two people who know each other, often participate in similar conversations, they participate in same events and share some beliefs. If they don't know about shared dreaming, most probably they will simply consider it as another dream where they saw their friend. But give the little idea of having a shared dream between each other and every time both of them dream of each other, they will consider it a shared dream, or a possibility of shared dream.

      Sometimes even conversations might match, because they used to talk to each other a lot. Often they do not recall complete text of conversations, when they start talking about it in real life, [utheir mind fills the missing gaps[/u with what they wish it to be. So in reality what many people consider a shared dream is simply a normal lucid dream about each other, dreaming of dream version of your friend.

      I am talking about it from my experience and from experienced that I got in this community.

      I had a friend who was lucid dreamer too, both of us were lucid dreaming almost every night.

      At that time we already were pretty advanced and we often tried to have a shared dream. In the beginning it seems awesome, we thought it was that easy and we got so many shared dreams!

      But later we tried to prove that and failed all our attempts to do so.

      We had a plan to remember as many small details as possible, by comparing details we can know if it could the same dream. In every shared dream we found differences in some details,:

      different hair styles,
      different color of clothes,
      different voices,
      different behavior,
      different details of decorations around us.

      We also tried to exchange information, we failed all attempts to do so as well.*

      I know you guys believe that numbers and text are hard to read, but don't you think that it might be a bias to think so

      . Both me and my friend learned lucid dreaming on our own, we got the idea of how to do it and that was it, the rest we learned our self.

      We did not have any prejudice thinking about problems with text or number so we never had those problems in our lucid dreams.

      I know sometimes it is hard to remember the exact text because our mind is thinking different in dreams, you can always wake up and repeat that word or a phrase couple of times in order to remember it exactly how it was. I believe that the reason why the majority of people believe that text and numbers are hard or impossible to read is that because it was mentioned in few famous books about lucid dreaming and then this belief transferred to most communities.

      Look at beliefs in Russian community, dreamhackers.

      Most of them read the same Russian books about lucid dreaming and they all believe that they dream in the same location, they all have some labyrinths, gates and levels and same monsters there, they do not even understand that they can create their realms and so on.

      That looks funny to us right?

      But they are sure that it is the only right version.

      I guess I went little out of topic.

      What is Real Shared Dream and How Can We Prove One

      This questions always stays open for me, I would suggest some kind of data exchange like text and numbers, or maybe replace it with something more symbolic?*Remembering small details and then sharing them to each other, but not with the way of chatting, we need to develop some way to exchange information at the same time.

      For example:

      if two users suspect that they might had a shared dream, they could send each other a detailed descriptions of what they saw,

      what happened,
      how they looked,
      colors,
      sizes of objects around them,
      any possible details.

      If they could send those details to each other at the same time, they would not be able to complete the missing gaps with what their mind with what they want to.

      I would suggest some kind of online room, where they come, write their text and then 3rd party member unlocks both descriptions for each other at the same time.
      Very scientific user5659

      I think you would really enjoy 86 year old, rvdc's work:

      ***

      http://www.dreamviews.com/beyond-dre...-thoughts.html


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