Thread: What if life actually is all a dream?

Originally Posted by TruMotion

@JoannaB
Hm, I see. Sorry, didn't read every post. But if it is, then it would be possible to break the laws of physics and whatsoever, through the power of will, much like in our dreams, correct?
Then why hasn't anyone done it?

First, there would be the power of combined shared expectations to overcome. Also, who knows whether nobody has really done it? Just because science has not documented as a fact someone breaking the laws of physics in real life, that does not mean it has not been done. Stephen LaBerge had the hardest time publishing about lucid dreaming in a scholarly journal because lucid dreaming was associated with parapsychology at the time, and thus no credible journal that wanted to stay credible was willing to publish on it. Sure claims of levitation have been debunked, but what if there is someone out there who has really levitated, and who just has not been scientifically confirmed to do so and popularized enough for people to accept it as something that really happened? I am not saying it did happen, I am saying that it could have (and I use levitation just as an example). Also, if life were a shared dream, people might be dreaming different versions of the shared dream based on individual expectations, and thus if you do not expect laws of physics to ever be broken in reality, they won't be in your perception. Then there is the Swiss cheese nature of our memory, we adjust our memories to fit our world view, and we might conveniently forget memories that would contradict our expectations, make us question reality too much, if we are not ready to question it yet. The more I question, the more I find that is questionable.

Edit: you know how two or more people when they compare their memories of past events, you question how it is possible that they experienced the same event, and yet recall it so differently? What if they did not actually experience the same event the same way?

Originally Posted by JoannaB

First, there would be the power of combined shared expectations to overcome. Also, who knows whether nobody has really done it? Just because science has not documented as a fact someone breaking the laws of physics in real life, that does not mean it has not been done. Stephen LaBerge had the hardest time publishing about lucid dreaming in a scholarly journal because lucid dreaming was associated with parapsychology at the time, and thus no credible journal that wanted to stay credible was willing to publish on it. Sure claims of levitation have been debunked, but what if there is someone out there who has really levitated, and who just has not been scientifically confirmed to do so and popularized enough for people to accept it as something that really happened? I am not saying it did happen, I am saying that it could have (and I use levitation just as an example). Also, if life were a shared dream, people might be dreaming different versions of the shared dream based on individual expectations, and thus if you do not expect laws of physics to ever be broken in reality, they won't be in your perception. Then there is the Swiss cheese nature of our memory, we adjust our memories to fit our world view, and we might conveniently forget memories that would contradict our expectations, make us question reality too much, if we are not ready to question it yet. The more I question, the more I find that is questionable.

Edit: you know how two or more people when they compare their memories of past events, you question how it is possible that they experienced the same event, and yet recall it so differently? What if they did not actually experience the same event the same way?

Everything you said is true, but that argument can be used against everything. Because of that, does it really matter if we leave in a dream or not? Even though it's an interesting topic, it's pointless. Basically, there would be no difference.

Originally Posted by TruMotion

Everything you said is true, but that argument can be used against everything. Because of that, does it really matter if we leave in a dream or not? Even though it's an interesting topic, it's pointless. Basically, there would be no difference.

I think this topic is interesting like u say because it suggest that you may be able to implement some elements of control in waking reality as you do in the dream reality. For example in your dream u may want to manifest a red Mercedes Benz on the strength of your thoughts alone. Almost instantly your red Mercedes appears before you. In waking reality you want to produce the same Red Mercedes Benz on the strength of your thoughts alone also. Keep in mind when you were dreaming you were most likey not in a wakeful beta brain wave state, you were probably somewhere in the theta brain wave state when manifesting the hypothetical Benz in your dream. So In your waking state you try to achieve the same theta brain wave state you were in when dresming. A lot of people do this through daily meditation. So not instantly but somewhere down the line that same Mercedes Benz appears accept its Green in color and came via a birthday present from a friend of the family. .

Originally Posted by dreamcatcher81

I think this topic is interesting like u say because it suggest that you may be able to implement some elements of control in waking reality as you do in the dream reality. For example in your dream u may want to manifest a red Mercedes Benz on the strength of your thoughts alone. Almost instantly your red Mercedes appears before you. In waking reality you want to produce the same Red Mercedes Benz on the strength of your thoughts alone also. Keep in mind when you were dreaming you were most likey not in a wakeful beta brain wave state, you were probably somewhere in the theta brain wave state when manifesting the hypothetical Benz in your dream. So In your waking state you try to achieve the same theta brain wave state you were in when dresming. A lot of people do this through daily meditation. So not instantly but somewhere down the line that same Mercedes Benz appears accept its Green in color and came via a birthday present from a friend of the family. .

To look at it this way, interesting, now there come more unusual things, people talking about stuff like telekinesis, etc. To think about it maybe people who do it managed to slightly break whatever waking dream logic that is preventing everyone from doing it, somewhat like dream control.

Originally Posted by JoannaB

First, there would be the power of combined shared expectations to overcome. Also, who knows whether nobody has really done it? Just because science has not documented as a fact someone breaking the laws of physics in real life, that does not mean it has not been done. Stephen LaBerge had the hardest time publishing about lucid dreaming in a scholarly journal because lucid dreaming was associated with parapsychology at the time, and thus no credible journal that wanted to stay credible was willing to publish on it. Sure claims of levitation have been debunked, but what if there is someone out there who has really levitated, and who just has not been scientifically confirmed to do so and popularized enough for people to accept it as something that really happened? I am not saying it did happen, I am saying that it could have (and I use levitation just as an example). Also, if life were a shared dream, people might be dreaming different versions of the shared dream based on individual expectations, and thus if you do not expect laws of physics to ever be broken in reality, they won't be in your perception. Then there is the Swiss cheese nature of our memory, we adjust our memories to fit our world view, and we might conveniently forget memories that would contradict our expectations, make us question reality too much, if we are not ready to question it yet. The more I question, the more I find that is questionable.

Edit: you know how two or more people when they compare their memories of past events, you question how it is possible that they experienced the same event, and yet recall it so differently? What if they did not actually experience the same event the same way?

Anything is possible in the dream. That is why it is referred to as a dream.