Thread: Exploring Delta Sleep

Originally Posted by Sageous

Why? Because, if you’ve got your self-awareness and memory working well, the quiet emptiness of delta, with its thorough lack of active unconscious input, can afford you a unique opportunity to do things such as relax in perfect nothingness, deeply explore your Self, tap your still-dormant dreaming mind in a manner unfettered by existing dreams, explore transcendental states, and, perhaps, connect your awareness to the supernatural-plane type things we all get excited about here, like dream-sharing and AP, all without the distraction and misinformation of your brain’s REM dream engine.

Speaking here about Delta Sageous you mention some of the reasons why we might appreciate the state and stuff we can possibly explore from it ...Could you share some of your own experiences of exploring in this way with say - AP, Dream Sharing, connecting to super natural planes and about your experience of bliss/emptiness you mention in another post?

Thanks in advanced Sageous - for sharing -

Originally Posted by Patience108

Speaking here about Delta Sageous you mention some of the reasons why we might appreciate the state and stuff we can possibly explore from it ...Could you share some of your own experiences of exploring in this way with say - AP, Dream Sharing, connecting to super natural planes and about your experience of bliss/emptiness you mention in another post?

I'm not sure when or why I said things about using Delta for AP, Dream-Sharing, or connecting to supernatural planes (I would normally include supernatural planes in the AP category, BTW, and also can't believe I used those words), but I've no time to read through the thread, so I'll assume that I did. I'm guessing I was trying to "sell" the concept of exploring Delta to the AP'ers and dream-sharers out there. I've never been a fan of AP (it seems more an engine for self-delusion than exploration; and conversely, isn't every dream sort of an AP/OBE? Both of those are thoughts for other threads, I think) or dream-sharing (I don't like talking to people in waking-life, so why would I want to do it in dreams?), but if I were to pursue them, I think I would do so during regular REM-period LD's, when I could use my dreaming mind's resources to help with making and defining the scenes and connections relevant to AP/supernatural planes and dream-sharing. Sorry if I misdirected you there; I was probably just a bit too excited or earnest at the time...

I can't say much more about the emptiness than I already have; I hope you don't mind if I take a pass, having no more new ways to describe peaceful nothingness.

Bliss? Did I actually use that word? Gosh I hope not! Bliss to me is an illusion, or rather a sort of emotional veil that acts as a barrier to the really advanced stuff, so I've always had a bit of a problem with pursuing it (again, that sounds like the stuff of another thread -- or website).

That said, what you left off your request was the opportunity in Delta to seek transcendental experiences...and I have actually pursued them during Delta. Of course, the difficult thing about transcendental experiences is that they are, almost by definition, very difficult to describe -- even to myself. I did start a thread a long time ago that discussed it; I finally listed a couple of dreams on post #40, if you're interested (most of the thread is about why it's so hard to describe them, of course). I believe the dreams listed happened in REM or late-stage NREM, but the advanced one at the end is not very different from my attempts from Delta... it also illustrates why delta is a nice place to begin a transcendental leap: I'm already in a void, or gray mist, so no need to eliminate the dream to get things started.

So: I guess I'm 4 for 4 in not giving you examples...but I also think I may have managed to at least hint at my own experiences, or at least I hope so! But let me add just one more dodge, just to be annoying: I think I've said elsewhere on this thread that the Delta experience is an extremely personal one -- in my mind it may be the most personal thing you can do -- so my experiences probably will not relate to what you might discover in Delta. In fact, reading other people's specific experiences might just harm your own time in Delta, because you might build a set of expectations about what is supposed to happen, and those expectations might muddle your moment (this is one reason I don't post a DJ, BTW).