Thread: Magnetic Pineal Gland Stimulation Experiment

cant find such magnet in belgium

I stayed off using magnets for a short time. Didn't make it the full 30 days, though, long enough to believe the magnets do affect something in the brain. To review, I had awaken, three days, with a mild headache, that went away in a short time. After the first few days, no longer any headaches.

Didn't experience anything paranormal since that one night of waking up, seeing the man next to bed, then disappearing in a second or two. I remember the startled look on his face, when he saw my eyes opened. This occurred about an hour, to an hour and a half, after I had fallen asleep that night.

Going to stay off magnet for a little while, for other reasons unrelated reasons. Will post in this thread again, when I start back up.

seems scary! no braindamage? i"ll wil try soon as i find the correct magnet

Originally Posted by rodan

I stayed off using magnets for a short time. Didn't make it the full 30 days, though, long enough to believe the magnets do affect something in the brain. To review, I had awaken, three days, with a mild headache, that went away in a short time. After the first few days, no longer any headaches.

Didn't experience anything paranormal since that one night of waking up, seeing the man next to bed, then disappearing in a second or two. I remember the startled look on his face, when he saw my eyes opened. This occurred about an hour, to an hour and a half, after I had fallen asleep that night.

Going to stay off magnet for a little while, for other reasons unrelated reasons. Will post in this thread again, when I start back up.

Originally Posted by morris

seems scary! no braindamage? i"ll wil try soon as i find the correct magnet

Well, it's possible the magnet(s) could have a negative effect on the brain. Just because they sell magnetic headbands, doesn't mean it's safe. I did experience mild headaches the first three days of using them, upon awakening in the morning, and, I only had the headband on, for less than 45 minutes per day.

I've taken a break from this experiment, but, do plan on doing it again, very soon.

[ i'll whil try it and keep you informd

QUOTE=rodan;2097825]Well, it's possible the magnet(s) could have a negative effect on the brain. Just because they sell magnetic headbands, doesn't mean it's safe. I did experience mild headaches the first three days of using them, upon awakening in the morning, and, I only had the headband on, for less than 45 minutes per day.

I've taken a break from this experiment, but, do plan on doing it again, very soon.[/QUOTE]

guys, seriously don't do this, especially if you're doing it every day.

There is iron in your brain which definitely gets attracted by the magnet.
It is proven that magnetic fields can damage your brain, and I'm sure the reason why this guy has seen a ghost after 2 weeks, is because magnets cause serious brain and DNA damage

they tried it with mice and found out that their brain cells have changed. That's due to iron atoms and radicals

I'm serious... don't do it

I do share your concern, Conscience.

But.. First of all, iron in the human body is not affected by magnets. As stated in this article... Radicals might be a different story. If there's any effect it is the effect on those molecules that produce them, I think. Changes in brain cells and DNA does not typically have to mean that these are dangerous changes. They might be positive?

Could you link the article because this is actually a very interesting topic and a lot of "pseudoscientist" keep saying that magnets make changes in DNA while "scientists" keep denying that magnets have an effect at all. It is an on-going debate. Only magnetic pulses are an acknowledged scientific fact. So i'm curious which kind of magnets they used in this study you mentioned.

To be fair, magnets exert an interesting quantum mechanical effect that is not notable on an MRI. They have been used and are used for therapy so there's probably not a danger. Pulsating magnets do make physical changes but they usually only last for an hour maximum before things are back to equalebrium. The quantum resonance that they do is akin to a sort of signaling pathway that might be responsible for making DNA changes. I'll have to await Conscience's link to the article to really decide on that for myself.

To be honest, I think it doesn't matter if you did 20 or 30 days of using the magnets.. If you have used them for this long and the only result is a weird hallucination and a mild headache then I woulden't put much faith into it anymore that things are going to progress for the better. Pain is never good and might indicate that you need materials to propograte nerve growth, I think. Or perhaps oxidative stress on blood vessels is the reason for this pain because there isn't actually many regions in the brain which are able to be linked to pain receptors. I'm just speculating here but both examples might be linked.

On the other hand, I do not think you even need magnets or anything to make changes and work with the Chakra system. All this can be done with Visualization and Yoga/breathing exercises quite possibly. Some foods and cleansing might help. Robert Bruce (AP) is an authorative figure on these kinds of things but to be honest not quite my cup of tea. It is an interesting figure though and worth checking out.

I doubt such changes would be positive. Our body isn't really "used to" magnetic fields... We get our energy from chemical reactions, there's no evolutionary use for magnets... maybe it doesn't change anything, you can argue about that, but if there's a change, it would be negative I think
humans also aren't "used to" electricity, that's why it's destructive for us
(I'm using the phrase "used to" because my vocabulary is awful and I can't think of a suitable one)

I searched pretty long to find that article, I'm not sure if I'll find it again. But I can ask my father about it, he's a professor at a university for medicine.. he might know something about it

in any case, I'm not an expert and the article I found might have been pseudoscientific... but that magnetic pineal gland stimulation is even more pseudoscientific in the first place. Stuff like other dimensions and ghosts aren't proven. There's no evidence that magnetic fields can get your brain to another dimension or anything like that
it just sounds ridiculous to me
when I read that this guy saw a ghost my first thought was brain damage
now I read people get headaches from it.. whenever something hurts you shouldn't do it. Pain is a sign for damage


why not stimulate your pineal gland by meditation? works much better, for me at least

Brain can't feel pain, it doesn't have receptors for it. Headache are from cramps of muscles on surface of skull. Cramped muscle has insufficient blood supply... Also lactic acid is forming and can't be washed out of cramped muscle.

Rodan: Maybe your way of magnet holding on place makes worse blood flow...

I have learned that the best way to stimulate the pineal gland is to simply extract DMT from baby fetuses.

Conscience, I have seen a ghost near my bed and floating through the wall after a lucid dream. And quite often see someone standing near my bed. I am quite certain that I do not have brain damage so i am positive that it doesn't really amount to brain damage in this case either. Who knows, it might even be a strong placebo?!

Originally Posted by Dthoughts

I have learned that the best way to stimulate the pineal gland is to simply extract DMT from baby fetuses.

Conscience, I have seen a ghost near my bed and floating through the wall after a lucid dream. And quite often see someone standing near my bed. I am quite certain that I do not have brain damage so i am positive that it doesn't really amount to brain damage in this case either. Who knows, it might even be a strong placebo?!

you might be right.
depends on the context as well imo.

I would be careful though... better save than sorry.

Right now: I do not experiment with magnets anymore

Reason: I found I attract what I want without the magnets. I spend $200 for magnets and I still have it. I did not find anything 'significant' to continue this practice.

So what's new: I am using more affirmation to condition my brain that I am and I can attract more I want. ( even it is for psionics or ESP/ lucid dreaming etc...)

How I am doing: I reaffirm it every day like chanting. I make my own statements. For example, ' I always attract money' Say that as many times in a day.

Struggled: I questioned it many times in the first week but later on I started to realize that mind starts to listen whatever lies we say to it but it takes time. When the mind has dominant conditioning, it listens to the dominant patterns. SO I am working on that. No matter what my goal is whether it is for weight loss or height increase. I found the key is conditioning the mind.

Alternatives: I studied EFT and so on:

I found: nothing new and every new cult uses the same theory called repetition and that is the key to our mind


Lazy?: then it is not for the lazy people. Once you go lazy, always lazy crazy. There is no magic wand.


Comment: My research (personal) is over) but I yet to develop my own statements and condition my mind to it

Feedback: I found it is amazing after 2 weeks from the start and I get what I want ( if it was conditioned)+ inexpensive


Redundancies : no need of visualizations or emotions . Mind works with out those. I heard those stories about vibrations, theta/gamma waves but end of the day none of them are necessary except our belief.


Draw back : you need to get your ass down there (lol!)+ don't expect too much this is not a game for someone who is desperate. This is a step by step upgrade. However, other methods got no guaranteed result. So had better choose this real one. Don't waste money! ( full of charlatans to fool people- they know nothing; ask them to demonstrate and prove their skills first and then learn if you are that desp.. can you ask them to get you $10,000 and demonstrate their power??? lol!) Why would they do for you if they can do it ? They normally want your fees..hehe! No offense meant ( I lost lots of $$$$ for the pursuit of truth)


THe most important: You goal is based on what you believe. So condition your brain to believe in your goal by making simple positive affirmations+ wait for 2-3 weeks for your brain to feel it natural+ expect= achieve it).

For some people it needs more reaffirmation and rewiring to condition because their older belief is too strong. The new belief should be conditioned deeply and dominate the old. Then it starts to execute the task.

Is there any virus?: YEs, some people question the possibility while the affirm it on a regular basis. Basically you are adding that 'virus' into your new belief. As a result, you implant a virus(doubtful) thought or belief in your brain/mind. The result will be = no good!


Sorry= for lecturing. I am 200% my research is over


Challenge:

If anyone thinks this is not true, post some relevant oppositions. It will also help you and me.



Cheerio

Jethro- nicely said. That is what I want to explain to people interested in OBE, yet I fail so many times to convince. The way is very simple, still needs to be followed tirelessly. Otherwise results will be nonexistent, or unsatisfactory.

True no need those crutches... no turn in back though it took me sometime to figure out. It is so hard to differentiate because we have N number of methods out there. Thanks psionik once again I will update my comments on and off.. whats new at your end?

Much appreciated

A few interesting visions nowadays... Mainly LD which I try more, because I try to do shared dreamings.
My OBEs are quite dull for long time now. They are very peaceful, but dull. Nothing interesting on my walks. I will probably end more passive while outside of my body... I will do more concentrated observations on simple things... Or maybe I will try to fly around more... Or just be there only for being there, for that peace.
Experiments to pull somebody(mainly my wife) out of body are unsuccessful. I'm starting to be disinterested in this experiment. But there is that thing- when you want to do something least, you are probably closest to success. Everything needs time. And patience.

yea, a detached mindset, hey? I felt that before but after conditioning my brain, things changed. My results were quite similar to yours ( least want to do = success). I understood that it was due to my previous belief system. Now, I am working on changing the system. I found it is amazing because I get some good results. I wonder if the belief system is holding you back to do it. perhaps, your mind might say ' pulling is not possible'. I would condition my mind with some affirmations such as ' I can pull by my will now' x N number of times if I were you. I am also on its basic stage but I am really positive on this that I can do it. Somehow, negativity is not on my track these days or I learnt how to avoid it. It was not the case just 1 month ago.

Thanks for sharing))))))))))))))))

Detached always... But I didn't find anything of interest for quite long time... which is nothing what would stop my travels The feeling of peace is worth everything.

Negativity or positivity- all the same. That is attachment negative or positive. Try to set yourself in between. The feeling is close to "I don't care"... And yet "I will do it"
Wanting without wanting- let it be happen. It takes time to find a way to steer that happen to happen your way... without wanting that.

I wish you success.

so how TK works with this theory? Could you explain? Is it because they don't want it or care about it? My friends always push and make some effort to do TK. Just wondering...

What is TK? Normally I see this as short for telekinesis

yes.

I used to practice the detached mind but it doesn't work in the long run because we have no uploaded file to execute it. If there is no belief, mind can't execute the command in a detached way. The reason why detached mind work is we have at least some or mixed positive or negative beliefs in our mind about the outcome. So it works at some point, however, if it is a new thing, we need to install the belief by conditioning it.

Well I do not do telekinesis, at least in physical world. I don't know whether it is possible. While out of body, or while dreaming it is possible.

Ok... it is functioning as I wrote. Wanting without wanting- let it be happen your way. And it takes long time to get used to this kind of existence. Firstly, I had short OBEs because normal way of wanting something to do in OBE led to short walks. Which was pity. I invested great deal of time to make separation possible to do willingly. Therefore I tried and try to find ways to lengthen my walks. I found passive approach much better. So I ended in astral as passive observer. Using only natural ways to move(walking, sometimes flying). Every "wanting" or "strong feeling" lead to ending of OBE.
I trained during waking time existing without those things. Without active thoughts. I use now passive thinking- it is something like to put myself into situation. Slovak word is "vžívať sa" English translation is not satisfactory.
It is like everything what is coming into you from outside creates waves of feelings and vanishes. Waves are creating other waves... interacts from feelings from inside. And it goes forward till it crystallizes into end feeling. And you stay in that last feeling for a while(short) to see if something will not change it. Now this is fast. Faster then normal thought process.

Next is this wanting without wanting. As I trained myself to use as passive-active way of thinking as I was possible to reach, it came to my mind that I need more proactive approach, without disturbing the state of mind. I use mild feeling of wanting something to happen but at the same time I let it be... disinterested in outcome and yet there is something waiting for the outcome. It is in peace, it doesn't battles between itself. When nothing happens then there is feeling best translated into "let it be..." And yet I can continue in wanting it happen. There is no place for disappointment. There is balance. In balance there is peace.

Sorry for very convoluted explanation. Feelings can be translated into words... but state of mind and alternate thought process through feelings... combined with fact I'm not good in English... You see the outcome.

I don't need belief in this process. I need only let it go through my mind. To make impressions in stream of feelings. And to make changes I could register. Sometimes, the impressions are weak. Then I feel like something is there but I don't see it. Or understand it. Then, I know it needs time to grow. This uncertainty is maybe hardest thing to overcome.

The way is long. I don't know what I will find useful later.

areyou on facebook or whats your email ID? Psionik

Could you explain a scenario that you were successful. I do not need the intention but the process you had been through. Much appreciated

Originally Posted by Psionik

Brain can't feel pain, it doesn't have receptors for it. Headache are from cramps of muscles on surface of skull. Cramped muscle has insufficient blood supply... Also lactic acid is forming and can't be washed out of cramped muscle.

Rodan: Maybe your way of magnet holding on place makes worse blood flow...

That's good to know. I'd rather it affect my muscles than the brain itself.

Anyway, I've been off the headband magnets for about three or four months now. Just started back up three days ago, and, the morning after the first session, woke up with a headache. ( the night before, I put the headband with a center magnet, and, side magnets, for 45 minutes )

Last night, I took both of the side magnets off the headband, and now just use the center magnet, on the forehead, about an inch from the skin of the forehead. Had it on about 45 minutes before going to sleep.

I haven't had a lucid dream since back when I last used the headband magnet. My sleep pattern is changed, though, since I've last had lucid dreams, too. I get up out of bed one to two hours earlier than I used to, meaning I'm getting less sleep, and, for me, usually the early morning is when I dream and remember them.

Plan on putting the magnet headband when I go to bed, slipping it off after about 30 to 45 minutes, every night.

Not results in this experiment yet, I really have a good result doing a particular meditation to stimulate the pineal gland that I find in this page, is a small e-book but really good.
They give it for free.