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      Eek, so many flawed arguments 0o

      however as I have analyzed other dreams scenarios from myself and others, I have come to a conclusion that premonitions do very much exist.
      And how did you do your analysis? It isn't enough to say that you reached a certain conclusion in your own, you still can't give a straight foward answer to my previous argument in which I pointed out that experience is not necessarily enough to prove that something exists, as there can be inumerous flaws in your perception/memory. By your logic, I watched 5 superman movies, and I have come to a conclusion that superman does very much exist

      A big part of this is the spiritual vibe that they are being given by too many people.
      And you claim this on the basis of....? You're making all these claims without even taking the time to explain them.

      Babies can dream in the womb. That means that there are physiological processes going on already that allow babies to see images and or sounds. It proves that you do not need to necessarily witness or have any beforehand knowledge of an event to dream about it.
      Someone hasn't done their research...Just because babies can feel sensations in the womb does not mean that you can dream about something before you have no knowledge it exists. Studies indicate that babies enter in REM sleep yes, but no one can affirm what they dream about. The general theory is that they dream with the sounds that come from the outside the womb or the images from inside the womb. You have no information about what they dream, and you're already stating that something you don't know prove something.

      Penguins know where to journey EXACTLY when they are born. They do not even need assistance. This means that the penguins' physiological processes (guided by sight), allow them to know where they need to go to survive. The penguins will then recognize the area when they arrive.
      Another fallacy xD! This doesn't say anything about precognition dreams and it's so irrelevant to the discussion that I'm not even gonna bother getting into the roots of this one.

      Last example is classical conditioning.
      What? Are you talking about sensory preconditioning? Because nothing in classical conditioning has to do with precognition. You have to explain what you mean. It just seems you are rehearsing your own prejudices, without really considerating any arguments that have been presented to counter yours.
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