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      Quote Originally Posted by hurricane1124 View Post
      That wasn't the point of what I was saying... wasn't relevant to what i was saying.
      As I asked in my last post, how so? Just repeating "that isn't relevant" doesn't explain. What value do precog dreams have unless they predict events more accurately than random chance?

      Quote Originally Posted by hurricane1124 View Post
      I was just citing the experience of the dreams.
      The experience of the dreams? Well, that sounds like exactly what I was talking about when I said :

      If all you're concerned with is being able to say "oh yeah, I dreamed this would happen once" after something happens then no problem - I've had dreams of things that eventually happened..
      .. Just your own personal satisfaction of being able to say "Hey, I dreamed this would happen!" - ie the experience of it. But you didn't dream that you KNEW it was going to happen, only dreamed of it happening, with nothing to differenciate it from an ordinary dream, so you would know "this one is precognitive".

      That's the only value a precog dream would have unless they actually show themselves to be more effective in predicting events than random chance AND they mark themselves as being different from ordinary dreams so people know when to pay attention to them.

      But even if all you care about is the experience. you still don't know which dreams will come true until after they do. In what way is it anything more than considering the probability of a future event, just as we all do in waking life frequently? Sometimes we're right, sometimes we're wrong, and we don't know which until after the event occurs.
      Last edited by Darkmatters; 03-17-2013 at 02:10 AM.

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