Thread: Looking for people that are Advance Dream Controllers for simple experiment

Originally Posted by EricinLA

Maybe weren't eve asleep at the same time because of the difference in time zones?

For me, its not necessary to be asleep at the same time for this sort of thing, it doesn't work that way. The most likely time for me to get a vision of the object would have been the night before he posted the message.

Originally Posted by shadowofwind

For me, its not necessary to be asleep at the same time for this sort of thing, it doesn't work that way. The most likely time for me to get a vision of the object would have been the night before he posted the message.

We are trying to connect our dreams. That was the whole point of the experiment. The transfer of some sort of verifiable information was just proof beyond that we said we did it. Unless I'm misunderstanding your point.

Originally Posted by EricinLA

We are trying to connect our dreams. That was the whole point of the experiment. The transfer of some sort of verifiable information was just proof beyond that we said we did it. Unless I'm misunderstanding your point.

In my dreams, the connection occurs in a way in which the idea of concurrent clock time isn't quite applicable. You might be able to share a dream with someone who is dreaming at the same time as you, but adding the concurrent time requirement just makes it harder. Plus I think it reflects a mistaken expectation of what such sharing is like, which makes it much harder. You have to move your mind to the right place for it to work well, and the "at the same time" thought isn't in that place, so to speak. 'At the same time' would be applicable if you were going to transfer information through electromagnetics or some other wall-clock-time-like medium, but the shared dreaming connection isn't like that. Similarly, you have to relax your lucid control of the dream, because if you're completely in control there's no way for the other person's mind, so to speak. But when you relax that control then you're also less in control of considerations like time, or exactly what is shared. I suggest relaxing everything except whatever the essential aim is, such as sharing information in the dream to prove to yourself that its possible. And even then it may be a lot easier if you try to share something meaningful to you, since a part of your mind that's necessary to the sharing might not care much about proving anything. When I try this with people I typically suggest they focus on a deep personal philosophical question that they want an answer to. Then we get mundane, objective information transferred in the dream also, but used as a metaphorical context for the deeper concern. You have to engage your subconscious in a way that its interested in. Based on my experience anyway. Obviously everybody is a bit different, but presumably these things will at least be similar for different people.

Originally Posted by shadowofwind

In my dreams, the connection occurs in a way in which the idea of concurrent clock time isn't quite applicable. You might be able to share a dream with someone who is dreaming at the same time as you, but adding the concurrent time requirement just makes it harder. Plus I think it reflects a mistaken expectation of what such sharing is like, which makes it much harder. You have to move your mind to the right place for it to work well, and the "at the same time" thought isn't in that place, so to speak.

I'm confused on what you are saying about being able to connect to someone that is not dreaming at the same time as you. If what you are saying is being done. You can connect to anybody at anytime even if the person is alive in the future or has already died. I'm not trying to get into the standard telepathy either. I just want to connect directly with one other person and share a dream. I guess I'm just trying to get to another level because total LD & DC hasn't been a challenge in a long time. Have you heard of anyone being able to do what I'm talking about and not just saying they did it. I read so many amazing things people say here. I have to take everything with a grain of salt. But I know what I can do, so I think some of things I read are possible.