Thread: We can prove dream sharing is real

sivason:

I have the feeling that the study/science/whatever crap isn't going to convince you of anything, because it reaffirms your preconception that science makes true what needs to be true for the dream. You have a romantic philosophy based on emotion, and that is fundamentally different from science. I would like to, if I may, make a small appeal to you.

Suppose that we were put in place by the dreamer, purposed with exploring and discovering and mapping out the cosmos. Imagine yourself as the god of a dream, stretching out fantastic amounts of time. You are all powerful and not limited by memory and imagination. If I were this dreamer, and I put in place the seeds for life to emerge in my beautiful cosmos, then damned if I wouldn't be thrilled to see them exploring and discovering. I'd be proud. I'd get to share my creation with someone. They'd get to learn about and document all of the things I spent so much time designing, and I'd get to watch them grow as a species and mature, and settle comfortably into their own little niche, the learners and observers.

You have a logical inconsistency when talking about your dreamer. If they are all powerful, and the architect of this dream world, and you base the rest of your beliefs on this assumption, then why not assume that in their wisdom, the dreamer put in place these mechanisms because it wasn't going to settle for a cheap, second-rate sort of universe where it needed to rush to dream up new things when its creations asked too many questions.

I would look on my creation like a proud father on his son, not annoyed that the universe I had so meticulously designed was sprouting intelligent life.