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      As I said, the universe doesn't have any thoughts in relation to whether I like or dislike something, I know my opinion doesn't matter. I have expressed my personal opinion to you but it is separate from my 'facts' area, I'm still open to discussion and I'm willing to learn the same as I was before. I suppose I misunderstood you. It appears as though you have surrendered to a "higher power", but my automatic assumption that, by talking of connection with others through mysterious things greater than ourselves, you were speaking of some deity or spirit or other such nonsense, likely stems from my culture and previous experience with others talking about such things. It's a mistake that people have made, obviously, for eons.

      It is my opinion(again, detached from my collection of truths) that despite our discussion, the influence of one mind on another, at will, with no physical connection or go-between messenger, seems mystic. I'm just trying to think of the biology behind it-- it's stupefying that we aren't aware of an ability that we posses that is apparently beneficial enough to be passed on through natural selection! And if it does not raise our chance of survival, then did it just slip through the cracks as a side effect of other beneficial genetic changes? When it is said that we only use a small portion of our brain, that's bull. We use pretty much all of it but at different times and for different tasks. I want a take on the actual physical process of this, not on the enlightenment expand-your-mind just trust it'll work sort of way. That isn't how I work, and I don't want to change to be able to say that that is how I work because I am comfortable with who I am(of course I'm still willing to grow and mature, etc). If it's a natural process that is open only to those who have a certain opinion about things then it's silly on evolution's part(not that evolution literally had a say). Furthermore, who would have sex with the people who did?

      I dunno. Ugh.

      As for Carl Sagan, he talked many times about creation and nearly each time implied the use of Occam's razor, saying that if there were a god who created everything, and the god always was, why not skip a step and say that the universe always was? If the god's beginning is an unanswerable question, why not skip a step and say that the universe's beginning is an unanswerable question, etc. etc. The only time I heard aliens implied would be Contact, and even then he was just playing with ideas. If you know of a quote that I do not, please share. Even if he did, in his defense, the origins of faith in gods are illegitimate, but there is cause to believe in life elsewhere than Earth, and there is room for possibility that it possesses knowledge and power unfathomable to us. Of course, that is all speculation.
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