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      Narcosis

      hi i have an question about narcosis ( its a drug that used for surgery in a hostpital)
      i found this thread about LDíng while under narcosis but its pretty old so i thought i make a new one. ( sorry i can't post link right now)

      so my question is can we go out of our bodies when we get a narcosis because i read that some people actually got out of their bodies,

      i really want to know if that is possible because i try like everyday to get out of my body but i can't,
      i only get in the vibrational stage and then i drift off into a lucid dream.

      also if that is possible any tips to get out of your body when getting under narcosis?

      thanks,

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      I would be interested in hearing opinions on this one too.

      I just saw a doctor on tv say, that when under general anestesia, you don't dream. I'm not sure though, if that means, that you can't retain your consciousness while under. And I have heard of people going out of body under anestesia, but they also had something happen to them, like their heart stopped.

      Have you read any guides on OBEs? If not, I will PM you some links. Happy dreams

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      I read almost everything but none really worked for me,
      but maybe yours help

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      hey,
      so i was in the hospital and they drugged me with narcosis , and i was really concentrating to get out of my body.
      the funny thing about it was that i was flying right away at the ceiling but then i just ended up sleeping.
      so there you go, you can't go out of your body or having lucid dreams, because you are really in a deep sleep.
      but maybe it was because i also was injected with Heroin

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      Most of the drugs they use in hospitals will not help you with this. Furthermore, the drugs that they use that DO help you with this will often be used in doses high enough to just make you black out (i.e., anesthetize you). That means no dreams, no OBEs, just blank, and then you wake up in the recovery room. There are exceptions, but they are rare. More than likely if you get a full OBE from anesthesia then you're in some sort of physical or mental trauma, in which case you could be having one anyway and really won't be concerned with astral explorations. Opiates/opioids and GABAergics (which make up most of the anesthetics used on humans) will not cause OBEs. If anything, they can cause a mild delirium which, particularly with opioids, can cause a few dream-like sequences to occur, but they'll be more like hypnagogia than anything. They will also not cause these effects in a hospital setting.

      The drugs you're looking for are dissociative anesthetics, NMDA receptor antagonists. The most common one of these used on humans is nitrous oxide, and I hear xenon is becoming popular. The further away you get from those, the less likely you are to find a hospital that uses one of these drugs on people. They are, however, frequently used as recreational drugs (including nitrous oxide) because they can be euphoric and do legitimately provide OBEs at high doses. However, these OBEs will differ somewhat from traditional methods, but they are OBEs. I'm pretty sure they work through the same mechanisms in the brain. Examples of these drugs would be DXM, ketamine, and PCP, among many lesser-known chemicals.

      Though they can provide OBEs, they really shouldn't be thought of as a replacement for normal methods of leaving your body. They're more like a separate experience entirely, and that goes for each individual drug.

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      and what about GHB (Gamma-Hydroxybutyric acid), that is used to drug someone.
      if you use it could you have an lucid dream or OBE?

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      GHB has effects comparable to alcohol. It could probably make your dreams a bit stranger in small amounts, though it may also impair your thinking and chances at getting lucid. It will not provide an OBE.

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      ok thanks for clearing that up

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      No problem.

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