PSI Abilities...I Think Not.

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Originally Posted by the real pieman

i used to have that too quite a lot with the simpsons and other tv shows....also i have a question for those who move psi wheels : how long should you meditate before hand and has anyone actually been able to raise it off the psi wheel????

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I can't raise it, just make the Psiwheel spin slowly. I reccomend 15-30minutes per day for 5-8 days before expecting great results with the wheel.

The way you said it it was so funny i was laughing the whole time and i agree with what you said about psy balls and sucking energy from the sun lol it was so funny the way you said it and some people acctually belive they can lol...

If you truly believe you can do these things, why not make yourself a cool million dollars doing it?

Randi $1,000,000 paranormal challenge

Ok Blade, so you posted your opinion here too... so I'm now pretty sure that you want to do these things, but you are shy, but I'm not a psychiatrist to tell that (Is there any in the house? (also sorry if I misspelled it)). Anyway I'm also trying this "funny" thing, just to confirm it for myself if it exists (of course, I can't confirm it's non-existence with this method). Oh and by the way I like your avatar.

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Originally Posted by Bladekillua

The way you said it it was so funny i was laughing the whole time and i agree with what you said about psy balls and sucking energy from the sun lol it was so funny the way you said it and some people acctually belive they can lol...

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I suggest you read the intelligent posts before you make a fool of yourself by talking about something you know nothing about. Peebrain's post on page 2 would be a good start.

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Originally Posted by skysaw

If you truly believe you can do these things, why not make yourself a cool million dollars doing it?

Randi $1,000,000 paranormal challenge

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Randi's challenge has been proven time and time again to be a rigged. Psi TECH, a site dedicated to Remote Viewing, issued a challenge to Randi, saying they'd pay him $100,000 if they lost. Needless to say, the challenge was turned down once he found out they knew what they were doing.

Here's a link to their site if you want to read a bit about it. http://www.psitech.net/news/tsl_090502.htm

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Originally Posted by qzole

Ok Blade, so you posted your opinion here too... so I'm now pretty sure that you want to do these things, but you are shy, but I'm not a psychiatrist to tell that (Is there any in the house? (also sorry if I misspelled it)). Anyway I'm also trying this "funny" thing, just to confirm it for myself if it exists (of course, I can't confirm it's non-existence with this method). Oh and by the way I like your avatar.

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There's no reason for him to run a search on anything involving psionics and revive a few really old threads, so I'd say you're probably right.

|= |_| ( !< Yeah!

I spun I pinwheel for the first time. Before I could only get it to wobble but I tried a different tactic I found on psipog.net and it worked! (It only moved about 20 degrees though) but I was able to repeat it 3 times!!!

**claps** Good 4 u. :)

If I were you I would take my time about investigating PSI abilitites.
Of course PSI is in your head. Where else would you expect to find it?
Playing games with a deck of card a couple times isn't going to do much to show that PSI exists. Consider that abilities of ANY kind are not spread equally throughout the polulation. Most people are musical but out of all those millions some are not going to do better than play "Chop Sticks." Others with practice will be good enough to play in cafes and lounges. A handfull will be concert quality. It's unrealistic to imagine that your going to be anywhere else but the bottom of the ladder when starting out. You may not have that much ability with PSI but that doesn't mean that those that DO have ability are around the bend. There is a lot of good research out there, pro and con, dealing with the subject.
Opinions are like BUTTon holes, everyone has got at least one. WHether yours is worth listening to depends on how well you know your subject. No offense intended but from what you have said and from what I know from years of experience you only seem to know what you have seen on the internet and a few loud debunkers. I'm afraid that won't cut it.

I am a skeptic. I was when I began investigating PSI in the form of Remote Viewing. I took it upon myself to give the subject a fair shake and be OPEN to the possibilities that there MAY be something to it. AFter taking a remote viewing course at www.hrvg.org and sticking with it, I was absolutely blown away by some of my sessions and those of other students.

Just some friendly advice with no intent to offend, but you have alot of home work to do.

Best regards
Rob

please read all the posts in the topic before making your own

Fordy:

Hummmm. How did this happen. I was responding to a post by WindyLove.
It was not supposed to be posted here. Aggghhhh!
Thanks Fordy.

ROb

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Originally Posted by robroy

Fordy:

Hummmm. How did this happen. I was responding to a post by WindyLove.
It was not supposed to be posted here. Aggghhhh!
Thanks Fordy.

ROb

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Where was your post supposed to go? Link me to it and I can move it for you. :)

Hi:

Now I don't remember. I thought it was to WindyLove but it might have been to Hepennypacker. It doesn't matter. Probably best to let sleeping cats lie. Or was that dogs? Hahaha.

Rob

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Originally Posted by hepennypacker52

Disclaimer : I'm not trying to disrespect anybody here. Just at least read what I have to say without quickly dismissing it.

Here's what I think about all of these "PSI abilities", from what I read (and wasted a part of my life) on yesterday :

a) I'll just start off by saying that I do believe in lucid dreaming, because it's science, and you're asleep, and it's your imagination. I imagine it would still feel cool though, which is why I try to become lucid and keep a small journal. I DO NOT let lucid dreaming get in the way of reality though.

B) Now for a general statement about all of these magical things : it's bull. I do not know how all of you guys think that you actually can suck energy from the earth or sun and do things with it. It's just not possible, it's all in your head.

c) PSI balls? In your imagination. I wasted about 10 minutes of my life trying to make one, and I actually believed in it for that 10 minutes, and pictured myself "sucking" in energy from the sun, and then the earth. Well guess what, I saw nothing but air between my hands. People that think they see these things, it's in their head.

d) Astral projections? It's all in your head. You can imagine that you seperate yourself from your body, but it's just all your imagination. Why do you think people are confined to mental institutes? It's because their brain is telling them things that make them believe things that are not normal.

e) Force fields? Ok, make a force field, and I'll come over and punch you in the face. We'll see how that works.

f) I went to PSIprog.net and read some of the articles, it's all just bull and I actually laughed at it. They say, "yes, you can create energy balls and use psychic powers to tell what number the dice will land on, but you're not going to do it every time". IT'S ALL PROBABILITY. If you say "the dice will land on 3" and it happens, that's because you had a 1/6 chance of doing it, and you actually hit that chance.

g) Just to have some fun, I tried the deck of cards thing. I took the ace of spades, and shuffled it in the deck. I removed 6 cards, shuffled some more, removed 6 cards, etc. I got down to about 10 cards until I hit the ace. I must have powers! Not. It's so funny how they say "yes, use the power to move this tiny shard of paper." Do you know how minute of a disturbance it takes to get a ultra-thin piece of paper to move? And you think your mind did that?

h) PSIprog also uses backup that makes it completely evident that they do not know what the hell they are talking about. They say, "sure, you may say this is impossible and the laws of physics prevent it, but what about time travel? People believe time travel exists, but that's not in physics..." Ok good statement, it's too bad that the laws of physics do not prevent time travel or negate it, but the laws to deny psychic powers, sorry.

i) Hmm, if these telekinetic powers are real, then why hasn't anybody gotten really good at it and taken over the word? I'm sure that of the thousands of people that waste their lives, at least a few of them should be so good at it that they can kill people with their PSI balls or mind power.

j) Please try and think about what you're doing, because it's just going to create a big waste of time for you. Start worrying about reality, not about spending your entire life "seperated in your spritual body in space", reality is what matters.

k) If you choose to not listen to a word I say, well at least you can have fun with yourself for the rest of your life. When everybody labels you a psycho and ridicules you, you can just go live in an astral projection or something like that, at least you'll be at peace with yourself.


Just my thoughts...

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Look, I don't understand whom your trying to convince that psionics do not exist. For many people, myself included, ramblings such as this appear to be completely unsupported. First off, I don't believe in things I haven't seen or experienced. I used to, but you can't keep holding on to your beliefs on weak experiences and other peoples word. Once I saw a close friend preform a pretty advanced form of psychokinesis right in front of my eyes, in an enviorment where it would be impossible to fake something like that, I quickly went from a believer to somebody who actually KNEW this stuff existed. I've had OBEs where I was un-aware I was out of body, but still experienced energetic phenomena present during OBEs, the silver cord phenomena in particular.

I understand your skeptism. I can actually relate, because now I get very irritated by all the faith-based religions in the world. I don't know how psi works, or how astral projection works, I can only build off of theorys and experience. They are truely incrediable phenomena, and I hope to learn more of their secrets later on in life. I believe these things have a scientific explanation, we just haven't discovered it yet. Its a smart move to only believe in things that you know for certain are real, but its also a smart move to stay completely open minded to all possibilitys all of the time, except for those few ideas that you know are total bullshit, like these ones:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:.

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Originally Posted by robroy

Hi:

Now I don't remember. I thought it was to WindyLove but it might have been to Hepennypacker. It doesn't matter. Probably best to let sleeping cats lie. Or was that dogs? Hahaha.

Rob

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I know what happened. Whenever you press the reply button that is under the person, no matter who it is, it always puts your post at the endo of everything.

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Originally Posted by wer

Look, I don't understand whom your trying to convince that psionics do not exist. For many people, myself included, ramblings such as this appear to be completely unsupported. First off, I don't believe in things I haven't seen or experienced. I used to, but you can't keep holding on to your beliefs on weak experiences and other peoples word. Once I saw a close friend preform a pretty advanced form of psychokinesis right in front of my eyes, in an enviorment where it would be impossible to fake something like that, I quickly went from a believer to somebody who actually KNEW this stuff existed. I've had OBEs where I was un-aware I was out of body, but still experienced energetic phenomena present during OBEs, the silver cord phenomena in particular.

I understand your skeptism. I can actually relate, because now I get very irritated by all the faith-based religions in the world. I don't know how psi works, or how astral projection works, I can only build off of theorys and experience. They are truely incrediable phenomena, and I hope to learn more of their secrets later on in life. I believe these things have a scientific explanation, we just haven't discovered it yet. Its a smart move to only believe in things that you know for certain are real, but its also a smart move to stay completely open minded to all possibilitys all of the time, except for those few ideas that you know are total bullshit, like these ones:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:.

;)

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Originally Posted by Bladekillua

The way you said it it was so funny i was laughing the whole time and i agree with what you said about psy balls and sucking energy from the sun lol it was so funny the way you said it and some people acctually belive they can lol...

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Are you aware that at the moment your gravity is attracting the sun. No way lol!

Even the tiniest atom on earth is attracting the sun with its gravity. We are even attracting the stars and galaxies trillions of miles away. Every person has a gravitational force. It is just so minute compared to a large mass like the sun. Eventually the universe will contract because of this and all the black holes and stuff will join together to become another singularity and eventually there will be another big bang. kewl eh?

I vote hnery on this one.

no psi's

um... how about some evidence and stuff to back up your argument.

Geez

To everyone who views people who do psionics as complete idiots and ignorant children, please know that the vast majority of people who can REALLY do this stuff are not these people. Most, I'm sure, don't even post on the internet. Also, give the more ignorant believers a break. I know how it is because I used to be one of them, most are young and looking for answers. I can't blame them for being idiots at first. When your told such things exist, its hard to reconize fact from fiction.

here here

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Originally Posted by wer

please know that the vast majority of people who can REALLY do this stuff are not these people. Most, I'm sure, don't even post on the internet.

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How do you know?

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Originally Posted by wer

To everyone who views people who do psionics as complete idiots and ignorant children, please know that the vast majority of people who can REALLY do this stuff are not these people. Most, I'm sure, don't even post on the internet.

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Can you think of a better place to teach others without being disturbed by society? It's not like Project Pegasus or any similar idea has left the planning stages yet after all.

its nothing to believe in .... it is real
Im Christian and I believe in telepathy, out of body experiences, Ive seen purple lightning perculate inbetween a womans fingers with my own eyes ...
Its just life to me i havent seen anything weird since i was 17 but I just live on and know whats going on around me

I think it's slightly questionable to say that this kind of stuff is impossible when by being on this forum alone, you are acknowledging that the mind has the power to create whole worlds under the right conditions. (Induced lucidity)

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Originally Posted by furryrabbit

I think it's slightly questionable to say that this kind of stuff is impossible when by being on this forum alone, you are acknowledging that the mind has the power to create whole worlds under the right conditions. (Induced lucidity)

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I agree with relating psi abilities to LD. Both happen only in your dreams.