Originally posted by Yume

Since you can't really prove it works it's kind of pointless anyways. .
That is an odd argument from a Lucid Dreamer. How much else have we been able to 'Prove" around here?

Let me lay out my argument -- that Images and Artefacts that represent certain Spiritual Entities or Principals are in effect Astral Windows to these Entities and Artifacts.

What we are dealing here with is a kind of Spiritual Atheism. It is a refusal to believe that anything Spiritual is Real. There may be some minor concessions, but if people truly thought that there was truly a Real Spiritual Dimension then they would have to acknowledge, like the Greeks and other Ancient Cultures that there is the possibility of the Heroic. What is the Heroic? The Heroic is when Humanity can effect the Spiritual Plane. There have been Heroes... more recently termed Saints who have been able to pave certain roads into the Spiritual Realms. There has been built a kind of Spiritual Infrastructure. The Spiritual World is no longer entirely given over to Demons. the Spiritual World has been to a great event Civilized. And we in the world have been given certain tools to help us tap into these consciously constructed Infrastructures.

But it is popular to be skeptical, nihilistic, and amoral. If I was 40 years younger and very stupid maybe I would give it try myself.