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In dreams and in waking life, there are those who would steal your energy: psychic vampires.
This is how you smell them: any person who tries to get your attention when you don't want to give it to them is behaving as a psychic vampire.
Beware. Focus. Ignore.
I've never had a DC who has done this before, or at least that I can remember anyway. But thanks for the warning :)
Yes many people do it unconsciously... I have people in waking life like this that won't leave me alone :P
lol, conscious and experienced vampires don't need your attention at all! A conscious psychic vampire has many ways to take your energy. From dreams, from your chakras, or even by touching you or talking to you. As for those who are unconscious... you can't really detect them because they don't know they are draining you themselves. The only protection I know is a psychic shield.
(I speak from personal experience)
Well I think you basically have three options- leave them, break the emotional connection, or steal your energy back from them.
-Well there's few types of psy-vampires and not all of them need an emotional connection (link) to you. There's the life force feeders (prana energy), the negative energy feeders (feed of stress, hatred, and everything else negative), the emotional feeders (feed of pretty much every emotion also the type that needs an emotional connection to their prey), the sexual feeders (sexual energy) and finally the elementals (they feed from the element's energy).
-You can steal your energy back only if you know how to manipulate it and work with it. Not everyone know how to work with energy....
- Define "leave them"
Hmmm well let me explain. people often will want your attention to create an emotional connection so they can steal some of your love energy, but they thing is they don't give any back so its not really love, its like vampirism.
Leave as in literally get up and leave that person physically. You can consciously draw the energy from their heart chakra back into yours (and you can take more if you want), or you can break the emotional connection with that person through intent, so it mostly stops the energy exchange all together.
I can vampire energy. Yep, stay away from me.
So that´s what those damn ankle-grabbing flying DCs wanted. Once I learn to fight they´ll be sorry they ever went after me.:evil:
Can you explain how to construct/reinforce a psychic shield in waking life?Quote:
Originally Posted by GrizzlyClaws
All true. One must be aware first though as GrizzlyClaws said. Then whatever one can do against them. Ignoring is doing the job in most of the cases as most of the vampires dont know they are such ones. Some have to make go and show them to stay away. Usually when i dont want someone to be around they know it without me telling them. They see it into my eyes or better to say my eyes are telling their bodies to get lost or not to bother me with whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by WakingNomad
btw i had once a dream with a vampire who bit me and i felt that my power to heal was being stolen. then i had to kill the vampire and thats what i did. cut the sucker in many pieces :)
It's a part of energy works. The most basic shield you can use is a "bubble shield". All you need to do is basically, visualize you aura expanding and getting a bubble-like texture. Like a jello. Feel the energy around you. Will it to change and shape-shift. You do this while meditation.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrerRabbit
This type of shield usually does the thing against unconscious psy-vamps. If you want some more info you can visit that site : The Psychic Vampire Resource and Support Pages-Shielding
They explain various type of psychic shields there.
A psi shield basically is you intentionally cover yourself in really good energy, which will keep away creepy astral entities. It won't protect you from people though.
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by saltyseedog
It keeps away creepy astral entities but it also helps against psy-attacks. You can "program" a shield. Focus your intention on what you want it to do. And yes, it doesn't protects against physical beings.
I'm also a psychic vampire, but not by choice. I'm so awesome all girls get obsessed with me and all guys go into a psychosis because they hate me so much out of jealousy and they try to be like me.
Don't blame the vampires, blame the people who can't control their own attention.
All children are vampires and should at all times be ignored? How about an old person who has fallen and would like to be helped?Quote:
Originally Posted by WakingNomad
People need attention from other people, and will starve in subtle ways without it. Yes we shouldn't allow ourselves to be abused. But I don't think "I am justified in ignoring anyone don't want to give my attention to" is an approach that works very well in the long run.
Of course your actual perspective may be more nuanced than that.
I too am quite confused on the message of this thread. Are we subjecting people to our judgments of them as attention hoarders? Or are we talking of dream characters specifically?Quote:
Originally Posted by shadowofwind
Well children and old people may not be trying to steal your energy they just want to be loved.Quote:
Originally Posted by shadowofwind
People want your attention sometimes to create an emotional connection to draw the energy out of your heart chakra into theirs. They act ridiculous and may be offended if you don't respond. They may say and do things that are pointless. That are really only them trying to get your attention to steal your energy. You will feel it pulling out of your chest.
When he talks of entities stealing energy in dreams. He is talking of dream or astral demons. Not dream characters. dream characters are a part of yourself, they are your energy.
DC's cannot steal your energy for they are part of you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raspberry
You can definitely detect all psychic vampirism.Quote:
Originally Posted by GrizzlyClaws
Thank you for clarifying that! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by saltyseedog
It is something essential for energy workers. :) ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by WakingNomad
What if at times you might yourself be a psychic vampire, or rather, experience moments of psychic vampirism? I only say this because there are times when I am unintentionally taking the energy from the people around me. I'm a performer and go through bouts of extreme extroversion in which I suck the energy from everybody around me and essentially put it right back out to them, combined with a considerable amount of my own. These moments are typically followed by extreme introversion where I need to "re-charge" my energy and remain guarded.
But then there are times where I push the buttons of people around me, just for the sake of annoying them, or seeing how far I can take them. They expel negative energy and I "suck it up" because it makes me giggle.
They are probably giving you energy. People give each other energy all the time. Thats why it is comforting to be in the presence of people sometimes.....
Ya I mess with people too. they just take things to seriously. Stupid white people...... thats why dreams are good, people take things less seriously in dreams....
I was reading up and yes there are pyschic vampire who sapp your energy from you even if they dont no there doing it
A Technique i was told was to cross your legs and arms lets say when your on a bus journey or sittin down somewhere local
it stop the energy from being sucked out! remember hearing it from like Shaman guy :D
Have you ever had that feeling when someone starts talking to you and you get this weird feeling come across you and you dont like it!
makes your feel clutty and hard to talk back and you want to avoid them thats an example of a vampire right? xD
even if they are being nice they just dont no there doing it Feel the VIBE!! xD
Im An Indigo child the warrior who comes and clears the path so that the Star child can work there magic!! :D
Read it up i truely beleive this :D
Crossing your legs does not stop them from stealing your energy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrighty
Pretty much ya if you get those signs they are probably stealing your energy. There's other things too that make you feel uncomfortable around people but are different. Like if you have an emotional or psychic connection to someone who has unstable energy that would make your energy unstable. Or if they have dark energy and you open up to that.
Psychic vampirism is not type of person, it's a type of behavior. It's taking energy without giving it back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Frapo
Please don't make racist comments.Quote:
Originally Posted by saltyseedog
I learned that technique from a book called, Psychic Defense for Home and Office. It works.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrighty
I was joking. I'm white.Quote:
Originally Posted by WakingNomad
Self-loathing white*
Although I can't comment on the all to ambiguous mystical "energy", I do take the word energy in a figurative sense (aside from it's use as a scientific term) and in that sense there are plenty of people who do what you describe.
No matter the source, a racist joke is a racist joke. No race should be disrespected by anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by saltyseedog
lol at the time I was getting frustrated with my white family.
lol c'mon guys back on topic. :P
I've heard about these techniques of crossing your legs or arms. However, the only thing that can stop me from sapping someone's energy is a very good psychic shield....just saying. An experienced and concsious psy-vamp is also a very skilled energy-worker. So crossing your legs will not stop them. However, it might work against unconscious psy-vamps.
I just shield, usually a mirror or brick wall shield, that usually does the trick
Ya i did mean by Unconcious Pys-VampsQuote:
Originally Posted by GrizzlyClaws
the ones which no there doing it are little Bastards!! haha
Maybe I am a vampire to. Some people have said that they don't like the vibe i give out even when I am in a good mood. I have noticed that if I don't talk to people and have alot of interactions I get tired and feel like crap.
Draw your energy from being outside in nature. You don't need people for energy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Osmodin
are forum trolls to be counted as vampires?:panic:
attention whores, drama queens... forum trolls... yesQuote:
Originally Posted by italianmonkey
Woah - you've had them too? damn! I've had those things grab my ankles on various occasions - usually when I'm trying to fly away - and as soon as they grab me it takes away my energy - I can't fly and so I start to wake up :/Quote:
Originally Posted by MrIrony
me too. When I flew to the castle of MorpheusQuote:
Originally Posted by floatinghead
Ha!
I was wondering what thoses things were, they always take different forms in my dreams but use the same technique to get me. One time when Raven turned up in my dream (after I called her) I was trying keep up with her, flying over somekind of a beach - when out of nowhere something grabbed at my ankles :/
I wonder if psychic vampirism and real vampirism within dreams have anything in common?
Except the word vampirism. >.<
I like transparent psi bubbles. <3
Though I like to vamp people myself, but never to hurt them. xD Some people's energies are so icky. D:
WN, what's your main source of energy? (Why do I get the feeling he's gonna answer 'Everything around me')
Main source of energy is yourself. Then nature. Simple as that :)
More like the container of your own energy is yourself. :) I like to draw my power from the moon, it's relaxing. :D
I dunno if I have reached high enough a level where I can create psi stuff (shields, balls, etc) from my own energy, but I am pretty sure I can. ^^
It depends what you mean by real vampire.Quote:
Originally Posted by lucidmax15895
Sunlight, moonlight, fresh air, filtered water, healthy food, being in the ocean, being in the jungle, standing under waterfalls, meditation, chanting, drawing energy from the cosmos and the earth. Mainly being outdoors and away from large buildings and machines. I draw energy from people's attention when they give it to me synergystically.Quote:
Originally Posted by lucidmax15895
So, you are pretty correct.
Here is a list of some things that people think give them energy which do not: stimulants, lack of sleep, cold, coffee. Also sugar and low fiber food are kind of minus foods.
We are nature.Quote:
Originally Posted by kenietz
Stare at the full moon, bulge your eyes out, and breathe deeply three times. Inhale the moon.Quote:
Originally Posted by lucidmax15895
As far as dream energy, I find when I have a good balance of sleep, exercise, and healthy food, I have a lot more energy in dreams. Also, I have learned to guard my energy in dreams and get more energy by sleeping in dreams.
Blood sucking monster in dreams. Energy sucking monster in dreams. Difference?Quote:
Originally Posted by WakingNomad
Processed food is unhealthy for your energy too. I find oranges to energize me like nothing else.Quote:
Originally Posted by WakingNomad
Interesting. I usually sit on the roof and look at it for hours, trying to absorb it's light. It's one of my favorite relaxing things.Quote:
Originally Posted by WakingNomad
I doubt dream energy is related to anything real. Though your dream body IS a replica of your real body (usually) and a healthy real body means healthy dream bodies, I don't think energies in dreams are anywhere near real energies. I belief they are composed more of our thoughts and 'belief' in the dream, as well as emotions.Quote:
Originally Posted by WakingNomad
So you are defining "real vampires" as "blood sucking monsters in dreams"?Quote:
Originally Posted by lucidmax15895
It depends what you mean by "real energies."
Soooo is weed a "stimulant?" xD
This is an interesting thread.
-K
Cannabis is considered a depressant and a hallucinogen. If you eat hemp seeds, they will give you energy. Drugs may make one more alert, but alertness does not equal energy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ketsuyume
No, I used the word 'dream' to show I don't believe in real vampirism. (Energy vamping is different.) My point is whether or not a blood sucking monster could vamp you of your dream energy.Quote:
Originally Posted by WakingNomad
Psychic energy.Quote:
Originally Posted by WakingNomad
Through my experience with psychic vampirism, usually you can detect if a psi vamp is 'feeding' from you if you start to feel energy being sapped away from you e.g. feeling fatigued. You may be able to work out who the psi vamp is in the room.. it's from the general direction of where you feel like you're being glared at /watched.
I went through a few days believing i was a psi vamp until i got told a psi vamp is a lifestyle where people consciously and deliberately drain others energy for their own selfish purposes. Silly me =="
How does one intentionally drain energy from another person? Is it a skill which you have to learn/be taught or something that you are born with/teach yourself?Quote:
Originally Posted by fOrceez
Subconsciously, everyone does it from time to time.
For example, when you go to a concert and you're in the mosh pit along with hundreds or thousands of other people, you feel their energies too. A bunch of excited moshers are usually gonna make most people excited with them.
To intentionally drain energy.. one method of draining energy from another person is concentrating on that person in the room and giving that person's aura a colour, if you can, think about "they way you think about them when you think about them" (haha) that may help you. Picture breathing in that person's aura.
Edit: looking at that person can help.
Why are psychic vampires bad?
Hey FOrceez, hey FOrceez, FOrceez! Look at me and talk to me don't beware don't ignore me! JK.
Huh?
I agree with much of what you say, but you must not let people believe that they must have something or do something. I used to be into eating all organic and exercising all the time and other things like that. The problem was I was constantly thinking that I had to do something or have something or be something. You must not be guilty. You do not want to create more guilt. feeling guilty about what you are doing is bad. so don't trip to much on what you eat or where you are. Just do what feels right and it will probably be exactly what you need right now to keep your self in balance and allow yourself to heal.Quote:
Originally Posted by WakingNomad
We have different sources of energy. We draw energy from the earth. We draw energy from the sky from distant stars and the moon. The sun showers us with energy. resting can give us energy drawing it from many sources and allowing yourself to heal. Fresh air is a big one. get plenty of fresh air every day. Sitting in a stuffy house or building all day isn't good for you. Breathe is extremely important. It allows the crap energy to flow out of you and to let everything flow. Get fresh air. People give us energy. The ones who surround us that we connect to. Nature gives us energy. the plants and animals connect to one another. They heal one another. Meditating in nature is very healing. Just do what feels best for you. Don't think you have to do something because it doesn't help. Just flow. Flow when you meditate. Flow when you exercise. Let you self go, the part of you that doesn't flow. This is good.
Also I sleep in dreams to. it allows me to dream longer because I let my energy bodies rest and heal so I'm not to exhausted in the day time. I also meditate in dreams often. It niiice :)
I think this is a good example of why its fortunate that relatively few people believe in this stuff. Although people's ignorance makes it harder for them to protect themselves from the few assholes who do this sort of thing, its nothing like as bad as it could be if this was general knowledge.Quote:
Originally Posted by fOrceez
Also, just to be clear, its not "draining energy", its eating the other person's astral body.
Or their atmosphere anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by shadowofwind
How would you go about stealing energy in the first place?
...never mind.
If i want someone's attention but they don't want to so am i behaving as a psychic vampire?Quote:
Originally Posted by WakingNomad
Quiz - Are You An Emotional Vampire?Quote:
Originally Posted by francis148
i score 2 which is i m not emo vampire. By the you are not taking vampire literally ?Quote:
Originally Posted by WakingNomad
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Originally Posted by francis148
no.Quote:
Originally Posted by WakingNomad
What amazes me, is even though I have this knowledge, sometimes energy vampires can still bait me with insults. (Especially over the internet, because most people are not going to insult me in person, since I may physically attack them.) I love the "ignore" feature. This same thing I do in waking life, (with the kind that insult.)
There is a man in my geology class that keeps doing, this sly fucker. He tries to one-up me on whatever I say, regardless of whether I am trying to start a debate or not, (which I am not.) I know he keeps doing such things because he is insecure, and feels threatened by me. My solution is to physically avoid him, but, I have been getting to class late, so I have been forced to sit by him. I must acknowledge I am limiting myself.
Oh, I had a dream where this guy was trying to steal my energy from behind in class, and I grabbed him, and tossed him through a wall.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-E1SaDrHJQ&feature=related
The singer and the whole band in this video are stealing tons of energy from the audience. When the singer starts banging on the drums they start giving back energy.
I have figured it's not only about stealing energy or not, I have tried to figure out why these people would come to me and not another person, generally it's because you let them get away with it, but! that's not the important part. The important part of this is, why is he doing "this" to you , is there something you are ignoring and have to aknowledge about yourself? usually people come into your life to show you things about youself or to help you express your love, atleast this is what I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by WakingNomad
I know it can seem paranoid, but when they anger you and at the same time they are helping you, I think this is fueled partly by their higher self, their ego just acts out and doesn't know. Some times they seem like the bad guy of the movie, but usually they take this play to help others and to learn.
With this I'm saying that darkness is an illusion, it's a real illusion that is created by us and other beings, but when the illusion disipates love remains.
True because we are all one.Quote:
Originally Posted by mowglycdb
Indeed. These words ring with wisdom and truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by mowglycdb
My Avatar is infinit energy.
That avatar is Harry Potters "Expecto Petronum".
Check out post #95 of this page:
http://www.dreamviews.com/f19/synchr...40/index4.html
Use that Mandala (my avatar) and the worst vamps in the universe will feed on the energy of the Mandala (the Petronus) and float away satisfied and sleepy.
is anyone still around who would be willing to give my advise/tutor me on this topic?
I'm not qualified to give tutor anyone, but it's still a topic that interests me.
I haven't personally noticed having a problem with vampiristic people. But I experience a mild vampirism with spirits, though that isn't quite the right word. It amounts to almost the same kind of thing I think. It's karmically connected to our predatory nature. To some extent it's unavoidable, but I'd like to understand it better, understand what the most constructive response is even if we can't stop it completely in the near term. It has come up as a topic again the last couple of days, and I guess these things cycle around for a lo of people at the same time.
I have come to the conclusion that energy vampires and psychopaths are the same thing.
Hrm... interesting. Well, I think I may have experienced vampirism, though, I'm pretty sure the guy doesn't know that he is doing it. Its like, every time I am around him, all my happiness and energy is just sucked out of me, as if I'm standing next to a black hole. To be honest though, I think the guy is just so wound up in his miserable life that he can't help but to expel all of his crappy energy into my little spongyness. His emotional stench is so strong, just being in his house is enough to ruin my day. :/ But I've learned to set up shields and now its not so bad. I have three shields, seven if you include each individual layer of my third one. They really help in blocking out peep's emotional crud. :D Although, I do have one question. If you are in a crowded area, say at a large stadium at a football game or in a crowded school hallway, and all of the sudden, you feel this pain shooting through your brain, are you being mentally attacked? Let me clarify what the feeling is like. Its like someone takes a long slender blade and slices it through your brain, or someone placing a tin bucket on your head and then beating it with a baseball bat, or someone hitting you over the head with a bolt of lighting. It REALLY hurts, and it sometimes makes me physically stumble and my vision will go in and out. When this happens, I usually concentrate my shields and mentally draw myself in, and after a few painful throbs, the sensation leaves. I know its not a migraine, I know what those feel like, and it usually only happens in crowded places, so what is it? Would you consider this an attack from a psychic vampire, or something else?
i get that pain in my head around large groups of people too....i just don't know what to do about it other than being a hermit
It could be many things.Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxiePlushie
Learn some astral shielding techniques. Chanting is great for harmonizing ones own thoughts, and blocking out psychic pollution.Quote:
Originally Posted by whisperinggirl
You are very accurate. I, myself, am a PV. I studied Social Dynamics as well as applicable Psychology and Sociology, which also gave me the ability to be a practicing Social Vampire. It came quite naturally. However, this was done as a survival mechanism. My father neglected me and my mother left; I was also living out of my car and working at a Cafe by age 17. Until the age of 25 I lived a transient life up and down the Eastern U.S. and into Canada. My social abilities were my ultimate survival tool, so learning how to not get pegged as a PV or SV was important. Also, it is just my way to manipulate people and social settings for the better. That which I take from people is happiness and belonging, however I have to get them to feel that way first so that I can share in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by GrizzlyClaws
There are other ways than physical interaction to absorb the energy needed from other people... A photo of a happy-looking couple found on the ground at a gas station sat on my dashboard for a few days until I felt I had vamped all the positive energy to be had from that moment captured in time. Out of respect, I thin burned the picture.
There are PVs and SVs though that are nothing like me. The only thing you can do is extricate them from your life or ignore them completely. This can be challenging with more experienced people that would drain your energy.
EDIT: Another thing to look for is someone that exhibits strong Extrovert qualities then disappears and becomes a severe Introvert for a time before popping out again.
Also, as a side note... It is important not to confuse vampiric qualities with projection abilities. I read in this thread that someone felt they were getting all the negative emotions of their sad friend, as if their happiness is getting sucked into them. This would be vampiric only if your friend's behavior pattern changed afterward.
If he continues to be sad he may have untapped empathic projection, or the person themselves may have unrefined vampiric qualities and is accidentally sucking them from his friend. Ethical PVs do this on purpose to take away pain. There are not many ethical PVs or SVs for that matter... Especially if they discover their ability. Perhaps better that most walk around undeveloped.
EDIT: For the sake of not posting another post...
An Occult protection visualization is to imagine two snakes of the same color forming a circle around you by biting each other's tail. Now have the snakes rotate around your feet and then slowly, deliberately imagine the snakes rising up like a hoola hoop all the way to above the crown of your head. Then, imagine the snakes eat one another completely above your head and vanish. Any time you feel anything wrong with the flow of things, repeat this visualization.
You can also carry ground black pepper packets from McDonalds or something in your pocket. Pepper, not salt. Pepper is spiritually protective, salt is a spiritual deterrant or barrier.
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how about sociopaths?
Thanks for starting an interesting thread on Psychic Defense! Psychic Defense is needed especially if you practice Lucid Dreaming, Astral Travel or any other work on higher planes.
There are many different psychic protection techniques out there. Psychic Defense techniques are needed while you are still unexperienced on the higher planes. They are also very handy in our every day life since they can protect us from negative energy and there are special techniques that help to recover the energy you have lost in the past (turning off energy leakage in the past can give you a great energy boost in the present). I suggest looking deeper into the question of Psychic Defense if you want to feel safe on the higher planes.
I personally conducted an online seminar on psychic defense and it turned out to be a 9 hour webinar, and still not all the techniques were covered. The best Psychic Defense techniques is actually living in your own truth under protection from the your higher self! But until you reach that state there are always psychic defense techniques that you can use.