Thread: Secrets of the Dream Plane

Originally Posted by Mzzkc

I did contribute.

I pointed out the existence of contradictions in your arguments in a succinct, entertaining way. No one wants to read walls of useless text.

Didn't know being Captain Obvious counted as a contribution.

"no one wants to read walls of useless texts" nah of course not, they just want to read douchebag comments said solely for the sake of entertaining themselves.

Its pretty obvious the type your being, in which case I have no patience.

You may think you can gauge the value of bit of text before reading it, but the rest of us smarties realize you can't put wieght behind something without actually.... looking/feeling/tasting/reading, otherwise it just makes you look like an ass, but of course you don't care, if anything you'd likely accept a parade of assholes in honor of the glory that you bring to sarcastic captain obvious douchebags the whole world around.

*nods* yep anywho, have fun with that, don't care to give a shit about those who themselves, do not give a shit.

Chill broski.

I'm sorry about the anal devastation you're experiencing, but your post was as hypocritical as the one you were quoting and the one you just made. Seriously, take a look at your own poop before yelling and tossing someone else's around like an angry chimp.

Critical thought is your friend, you know.

Originally Posted by Mzzkc

Chill broski.

I'm sorry about the anal devastation you're experiencing, but your post was as hypocritical as the one you were quoting and the one you just made. Seriously, take a look at your own poop before yelling and tossing someone else's around like an angry chimp.

Critical thought is your friend, you know.

Its alright, I can see your assuming/reading way into a bit of the spectrum that is as your already portraying yourself to be from. I can see why you'd think what you do, but I also realize the narrowness of your vision, your whole analysis/critical thinking makes holds about as much weight as that of.... what did you say? Angry chimp? Funny and pointless to do anything other than laugh at.

And hey, who am I to tell you how to get off, i get off from anal devastation (just to clear up that confusion), so who am I to judge if you get hard playing the character that you do? *shrugs* I guess its just a little bit of an old one to me these days.

I'd say have fun, but lol..... like I even have to tell ya.

Originally Posted by Oceanboy

Its alright, I can see your assuming/reading way into a bit of the spectrum that is as your already portraying yourself to be from.

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

Originally Posted by Oceanboy

I can see why you'd think what you do, but I also realize the narrowness of your vision, your whole analysis/critical thinking makes holds about as much weight as that of.... what did you say? Angry chimp? Funny and pointless to do anything other than laugh at.

Lol. You're hilarious and I love you.

Also:

Originally Posted by Oceanboy

i get off from anal devastation

Sigged.

Originally Posted by TehDalek

Well I mean it isn't something you can just dream and see, this God-Satan battle. I believe a lot of this is conjured from WakingNomad's own mind, and not really this whole world of conflict outside what we perceive. I think a simple thought has exploded into a bunch of nonsense with WakingNomad.

btw I was actually seriously in asking you to explain further, I wasn't trying to just bomb down even though some people who tend to put tones of voice to text may hear what i said in that shade of light, but I said all that I said and asked what I did because I'd like to hear more from you than. If i have to explain my own so I don't get called a hypocrite for asking you to explain yours then fine, i'm more than happy to go into detail

OTHER WISE WHY THE FUCK WOULD I BE HERE WASTING MY TIME ON ANY OF YOU?

Yay progress!

Originally Posted by Mzzkc

Sigged.

Ya know, I think I just figured out what your AV is, its the giant clit of the cunt that you are : D

I take it you aren't a Kubrick fan, then. ^.^

Originally Posted by Mzzkc

I take it you aren't a Kubrick fan, then. ^.^

I know the film, not the director so much. :/

NWO/Alex Jones/Illuminati/ETC is all BS.

Way to bog down any dreaming knowledge with a bunch of bologna.

Originally Posted by TehDalek

No need to be rude about it. I am not specifically forcing my beliefs on anyone, I just think the specifics of the dream world are 100% w/o form. I believe that your mental connection has created this reality in your dreams of fights, templars, alternative motives, etc.

As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.(Deuteronomy 20:10-14)

If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife. (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)

"When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion." (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)

"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told." (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)

^^ Handy book, that...

Apologies if I've said this before in a thread that whoever's reading this has already looked at....Since thoughts can be shared between people, I don't think there's a completely clear dividing line between what is 'made up' and what is 'real'. You can encounter a scene in a dream that's objectively real in the sense that you didn't make it up yourself, but even if a billion other people are thinking the same thought, it doesn't make it true in the sense that they think it is true. An obvious example of this is 'end times' thinking, where people think that armageddon is upon us because many people have had the same vision. Then when it doesn't happen as they predicted, they explain this is because God is so merciful he has given us a little more time, or whatever other explanation comes to mind first.

It seems to me that Yahweh is in some sense real, as a god with a body of collective thought, and has real power. But it doesn't mean that he has the power that he pretends to have, or that we all have to choose to kiss his ass, embrace the barbaric mentality of his followers, or place ourselves in his mental world. Maybe I'll be smitten for my attitude, for picking a fight with something too big for me. But there seem to be powers that see things more how I do, and I choose to honor what I perceive to be intelligent and just, rather than whatever seems like the most threatening bully.

Originally Posted by WakingNomad

As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.(Deuteronomy 20:10-14)

If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife. (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)

"When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion." (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)

"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told." (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)

So you are quoting things out of context from Deuteronomy..So?
What, am I supposed to go into a large fight about this, on how my "religion" is more correct than yours?
I am not trying to make you believe what I do. I am just saying your dream world isn't what you say it is. It has turned into fights and all that because you and your friends imagined it that way. You are telling it as if dreams are a seperate entity, and that if we don't believe in your new religion, the evil dudes will destroy us all in our sleep. What is this, Freddy Kruger? Grow up and have some sense.

TahDalek....WakingNomad...

My two cents.....

You are both right...and you are both wrong...can we go home now?

The Bible could be seen as a huge elaborate dream. Every dream can be seen as another reality. What is behind the dream? What is the story behind the words in the Bible?

Its obvious to serious academia that most of the OT(old testament) is fiction. Just performing a comparative study (which I have done) between OT thought and other ancient forms of religion will show you they are all the same. These "holy men" are all experiencing the same thing we call life and yet they interpret things differently.

Why is that?

IMO: Because there is a filter between objective reality and our subjective reality. That is called perspective. The key in any interpretive situation is to establish perspective. In college, this interpretation is called hermeneutics and the perspective is called context. And context is king.

To reference the colloquial phrase, walk a mile in my shoes. Put on a different pair of reality goggles for a second. All these pictures we see mean something...

Originally Posted by Chimpertainment

TahDalek....WakingNomad...

My two cents.....

You are both right...and you are both wrong...can we go home now?

The Bible could be seen as a huge elaborate dream. Every dream can be seen as another reality. What is behind the dream? What is the story behind the words in the Bible?

Its obvious to serious academia that most of the OT(old testament) is fiction. Just performing a comparative study (which I have done) between OT thought and other ancient forms of religion will show you they are all the same. These "holy men" are all experiencing the same thing we call life and yet they interpret things differently.

Why is that?

IMO: Because there is a filter between objective reality and our subjective reality. That is called perspective. The key in any interpretive situation is to establish perspective. In college, this interpretation is called hermeneutics and the perspective is called context. And context is king.

To reference the colloquial phrase, walk a mile in my shoes. Put on a different pair of reality goggles for a second. All these pictures we see mean something...

I blocked him for making ad hominem attacks. pau

I know this is a bit late to post but to the people debating on Eyelashes and Eyebrows.
Eyebrows and Eyelashes actually stop Dirt, Infections, Bacteria and even parasites from getting into your eyes. And remember we used to have bushy hair all over our body for warmth, but seeing as this isn't as necessary and wastes energy our hair has all receded. (You can see this action in progress now due to all the balding going around in men & women's head hair.)
So when all our hair was receding it could have got to our eyebrows and really choose they were necessary and useful.

Eyebrows actually diverge sweat from your forehead to the side of your face so they don't go into your eyes. This sweat could contain dirt and even faeces if you were that dirty so its a good thing it doesn't go into our eyes. Eyelashes just stop bacteria and dirt in general.
And remember in our eye gets an infection we pretty useless when rendered blind and we need our co-ordination.

Lay off acid And YouTube for a while...

Originally Posted by Dreamharder

Lay off acid And YouTube for a while...

Nah. MORE psychedelics. And VIMEO. Or TEDtalks

Some wild thoughts... Lets say two people have sex in this plane , will they have a baby? Also the dream plane you talk about.. does it inlcude the dream dimensions of all || universes too? Then According to you , I can meet with my parallel versions , can't I? Along with the future me and past me o.O

I bet it is possible to have a dream baby! Though I would suspect that it would work in much the same way as how two dreamers create a dream base between them: Certain aspects would be consciously (or even subconsciously) agreed upon, creating a kind of reverse dream guide

FYI: my daughter handed me a dragon egg in a dream (from her dragon dream guide) when I told her I didn't have a dream guide, and from that egg hatched my dream guide! - which is a sort of similar scenario (joint creation)

Originally Posted by floatinghead

I bet it is possible to have a dream baby!

I know many people will think this is nuts, but in my experience something like that can happen if there's a strong intersection of spiritual understanding or aim with someone else and conditions are right. I don't mean sexual imagery, I mean that one person knows something that the other person needs, or wants to accomplish something that he can't accomplish but that the other person can do something with. Its like all that frustrated will that can't be physically expressed creates or draws in an angel-like entity that's related to both people and helps do something with it.

Dream babies are nothing new. So it's nice to see a logical explanation for what purpose they serve, never really thought about it from that angle. I always thought it is some kind of parallel dimension issue, but that explanation never really struck me as true for an actual explanation.

Originally Posted by Dthoughts

Dream babies are nothing new. So it's nice to see a logical explanation for what purpose they serve, never really thought about it from that angle. I always thought it is some kind of parallel dimension issue, but that explanation never really struck me as true for an actual explanation.

I've never heard of this concept before - where have you heard of dream babies before?