Is it really the reality checks

**topten35** · 09-06-2009 06:22 AM

For the past 2 or 3 days i haven't done any lucid techniques, but i have increased my reality checks, i'll do a few during the day but mostly at night. In fact the first night which was two days ago, that i started doing them, i had a lucid dream that night, just a few minutes after i fell asleep, i saw a dream sign, then i checked my hands, my hands looked a little bigger and one of the fingers on my left hand was bent awkwardly. I've never had this much sucess in lucid dreaming before. I've had 6 lucid dreams in two days, i had four yesterday morning. I was lucid dreaming like crazy after doing rcs the night before. Does doing reality checks have that much affect on your ability to lucid dream? The only two reality checks that i do are, checking my hands and seeing if i can push my finger through my hand. I've never had this many lucid dreams in such a short amount of time, the most i've ever had are 2 or 3 a week, mainly 2, and that was on good weeks. Also i think another good way to have lucids, is to get up extremely early, like around 4 or 5 am, stay up for about 30 minutes to an hour and then you should feel sleepy. If you can't go back to sleep that morning, you'll probably feel sleepy later in the afternoon which would probably be a good time to do a wild, what do you all think about this?

**Alric** · 09-06-2009 06:30 AM

I think its probably a combination of doing the reality checks, and doing them at night, which probably keeps them fresh in your mind before going to bed.

**imj** · 09-06-2009 04:29 PM

The truth?....The truth is not the reality checks...

. It is dream awareness before the reality check. Normal dreaming works on the basis of reality not dreaming so it's reality awareness by default and reality checks are not under reality because Y would you do a reality check if you know it's reality? The only time you do the reality checks is when you start to be dream aware. We can do reality checks when we are awake because we are both reality aware and dream aware when awake.

IMJ

**topten35** · 09-07-2009 01:04 AM

I think both answers are corerct, plus i had my 2nd deild saturday as well, i think it was by accident because i don't remember thinking about the dream that i just had. The dream that i had was a continuation of the same dream that i had right before it. Deilds are my favorite technique for lucid dreaming. But i also like wild although it is hard sometimes, but i'm becoming sort of a pro at wilds, not moving is becoming a bit easier.

**ld411** · 09-07-2009 03:26 AM

Originally Posted by imj

The truth?....The truth is not the reality checks...

. It is dream awareness before the reality check. Normal dreaming works on the basis of reality not dreaming so it's reality awareness by default and reality checks are not under reality because Y would you do a reality check if you know it's reality? The only time you do the reality checks is when you start to be dream aware. We can do reality checks when we are awake because we are both reality aware and dream aware when awake.

IMJ

That is very interesting!

But then whats the point of RCing? Too increase dream awareness? I'm kinda confused of what you mean.

**imj** · 09-07-2009 06:53 AM

The reality check is to confirm/'amplify' the occasional blip of dream awareness that would have been swept away by reality awareness in the dream. But occasionally this dream awareness is more than a blip maybe because of the wakefullness of the mind at that time of the dream and no reality check is needed and the dreamer gets spontaneous lucidity. So to reality check in the dream, the dreamer has to somehow convince the mind/himself that it is part of reality like switching on a light is a excellent disguise for a reality check but problem is that with such a disguise the dreaming self would fail to acknowledge it as a reality check most of the time. Another example is dreamsigns, it is also a type of reality check but it is presented to the dreaming self as part of the dream's 'reality' and it's again up to the dreaming self to acknowledge the dreamsign and be dream aware and do a formal reality check on his own accord to confirm/'amplify' dream awareness. The Tibetan monks were able to lucid dream at will because I think they were brought up to percieve reality as dream awareness so their default in the dream is dream awareness. For us city dwellers it's quite hard to achieve..

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IMJ

**ld411** · 09-07-2009 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by imj

The Tibetan monks were able to lucid dream at will because I think they were brought up to percieve reality as dream awareness so their default in the dream is dream awareness. For us city dwellers it's quite hard to achieve..

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IMJ

Can you give me a source of where you read this? It sounds very interesting!

**imj** · 09-07-2009 10:43 AM

A site I found says......The Tibetan adepts mastered the lucid dream state and used them as a means to realising that all things perceived through the senses are illusory and that the only reality is Nirvana. "The Universal Creation, with its many mansions of existence, from the lowest to the highest Buddha paradise, and every phenomenal thing therein... are but the content of the Supreme Dream."

I think it's alot for a normal person to 'percieve'. I tried doing that but the mind went slightly schizo...

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From this site...http://www.psychics.co.uk/dreams/luciddreams.html

IMJ

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