Thread: is lucid dreaming even real?

i've tried for like a month and nothin is happening...

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's real.

Otherwise there wouldn't be plenty scientific books on the subjects, and loads of experienced lucid dreamers.

We have hundreds of dream journals in the designated section, take a look if you need inspiration.

If you'd like help with something specific, don't hesitate to ask.

People have tried for longer than a month (one example is four years), and yet they still know it's real. I've was at it for months, then school started, stopped for a bit, but now am at it again. It's real, like the person above me said- science and experience have proved it.

where did everybody go to learn how to lucid dream anyway? i saw a how to video on youtube by howcast

you can learn it by yourself.... you don't have to take classes, pay money, or anything. it is FOR FREE!

I learned just by practice, and talking to people here on the site...


EDIT: http://www.lucidity.com that is stephen laberge's website. I find it highly entertaining!

Look at it this way,
If you'd been learning to speak french for a month, would you expect to be a fluent speaker by now? Of course not.
How good would you be?
Well that depends on how much time each day you are putting into learning, but whatever the case you'd certainly only have the most basic level of understanding.

You're learning about yourself here, your psychological quirks, your sleep cycle, your memory etc. You're learning to speak the language of your own mind.
People can only teach you so much, techniques that work for some do not always work for others. It's going to be a bit of trial and error.

In my experience Wake Back to Bed, is a good foundation to start with.
You can then mix that basic principle with other methods and ideas, until you find a combination that works well for you.

Of course, once you start getting aware in your dreams, you'll then have to learn how your psychology works in order to get the most out of them.

It's a lifelong journey and therin lays the beauty of it. It dosn't get old, because as you grow and change, your dreams grow and change.

You're at the tricky bit, you're in the "learning to drive" stage...
the fun really starts when you have the basic skills sorted, and you can "drive"... then it's just down to you to choose where to go and how fast to drive.

Trust me if you put effort into it during the day, it WILL pay off at night.

Man it's real...

In the beggining everyone thinks that after reading articles will be able to dream lucid...

Man you need to train yourself...i had to try 7 months to have LD's...And more than 1 yea to have WILD's....

...It only took me about 2 weeks to start having lucids regularly... ._.

I feel bad now, like I cheated or something. .__.

I Seem To Be A Little Different I Had Lds [a Few] Before I Ever Heard Of Lds Or Even Of This Site. The Only Reason Im Here Is Because I Have Had Lds On My Own [naturally] And I Just Googled Control Of Dreams Or Controllong Your Dreams And I Am Here. I Want To Have More If Possible Because They Are The Best. No Limits In There. Nothing Like Knowing You Are Dreaming And Doing All The Crazy Stuff You Cant Do In Real Life! Just Want To Know How To Do It More. If It Werent Real I Wouldent Have Sought Out This Site.

The notion of lucid dreaming is simply an elaborate illusion created for the sole purpose of fooling you into believing that there exists yet another consciousness outside of your own to be experienced by other conscious entities.

However, since you already know that you are the only being who exists and nothing can be known or accurately conceived independent of your own mind, upon coming across dreamviews.com, you confidently conclude that the idea of lucid dreaming is all a hoax or a sophisticated scheme implemented to sway you from your initial belief system. You quickly discredit this fancy deception because you know that since only you exist, you cannot be wrong in believing that only you exist because there is no other principle way in existence to prove otherwise, and you therefore must be correct in your thinking.

The next logical step would be to question the existence of this so-called lucid dreaming, even though you know your actions will probably prove futile since your solipsistic worldview is invariably true to reality.

You subsequently created this thread.

Took me 6 months of DJing and RCing and waking up in the middle of the night for no good reason to have my first Just keep at it and think about how cool it will be once you can do it.

Lucid Dreaming takes 2 things..

Time & Patience...

Q: What have you done to help yourself?

Are you keeping a dream journal every day? If so, are you going back through it and looking to find Dream Signs?

What about reality checking? I know it can sometimes slip people's minds, but it's important to do when it comes to Lucid Dreaming?

Honestly, a month isn't that long of time at all.. It took me 20 years to have my first one, but that is only because I had no clue what it was and I never even tried to have one.. I accidently had one, and since being into it for 4 years now.. You can see by my LD count, that it gets better as you go...

Just don't give up.. Another thing I forgot to mention is the fact that, if you are trying TOO HARD to have a Lucid dream, it can hinder your chances of having one.. I know it sounds strange but its like an unwritten law when it comes to Lucid Dreaming... Usually the people who try to hard--when they stop for a couple days--that's when the LD happens. They come back all happy and stuff!!!

So yah, Lucid dreaming is real--scientifically proven in a sleep lab by Stephen Laberge. You can pick up his book Exploring The World Of Lucid Dreaming at a book store. It's an amazing read, and it may help you along the way to lucidity!

Take care, and good luck!

Spiritofthewolf

It's real, and really cool. I've had several lucid dreams, but never when I've actually tried it.

If you're trying all sorts of methods and not having any success, try giving up. It usually works for me.

I'm the same way. I've been lucid in my dreams before I knew what it was. Actually TRYING has stumped me so far, but I'm going to stick with it this time. For some of us, it just takes practice, I guess. And patience. But, as far as the original question, I know it's real, because I've had them before.

Originally Posted by H3r0ofTHEday

i've tried for like a month and nothin is happening...

It's been scientifically proven I believe.

You have the wrong attitude asking if its real or not, even thinking if it is or not can set you back on your journey. It has been proven and its quite easy to understand. Your brain has a logic center, to identify what is real and what is not. If you can turn this back on aka Lucid Dreaming you will be aware of your dreams. Dreaming to a non-lucid form, is like seeing your parents everyday and going to work, its all normal to you. But when you practice Lucid Dreaming, you get aware of your dreams and turn the Normal to "Omg, Im dreaming?" So its pretty simple to understand. Logic = Off when you are not lucid, Then if you make a habit of knowing you can breath in a dream with your nose pinched or see that your hands are messed up, you will take that into the dream world as a habit and be aware. Think of it as in a regular non lucid dream your body is in autopilot, then suddenly the plane is going down and it needs the pilot to steer it, thats when you become "aware" and know that you are dreaming.

you will need persistence and self discipline to succeed.
One month is a very short time for most.

As for real, here is an interesting link for you
Lucid Dreams on Discovery Channel

Hope you continue in your efforts, and know you cannot dance before you have learned to walk.

Pick through the number of simple methods on this site to help you, and keep up an active dream journal. You'll gain the tools you need to succeed with time.

Originally Posted by slayer

It's been scientifically proven I believe.

3000 posts, you should know that LaBerge was the first person able to scientifically prove it! He figured out that when you move your eyes in a LD, your real eyes make the same motions your "dream eyes" do. So he spent several nights sleeping in a lab and they hooked up some monitors to his eyes or something. When he became lucid he moved his eyes back and forth a set number or times or something like that to prove that he was conscious while asleep and in REM.

I gotta say though
It occured to me how every time I read Stephen Laberge's name on this website it loses its credibility. I'm getting a sneaking suspicion that this whole website is just to market his book.

Don't give up. I had my doubts, but as soon as I forgot about it I had my first. You can give up, or you can devote a small amount of your mind to thinking about it and reclaim the 1/3 of your life you spend sleeping.

Originally Posted by StrangeDreamsGuy

Don't give up. I had my doubts, but as soon as I forgot about it I had my first. You can give up, or you can devote a small amount of your mind to thinking about it and reclaim the 1/3 of your life you spend sleeping.

Yes it is very real. I had a LD once, granted I was lucid for only 30 seconds.

Eh, I don't feel that way. I mean, Laberge is just the guy who's done most of the scientific research on LD. Who else are people going to talk about when they want to talk about when they want to discuss the scientific side? Plus, his main technique, MILD, really seems to work for a LOT of people, so it makes sense his name comes up often.

If it's true, then I hope the forum owners are getting a cut! LOL. But, somehow I feel they maintain this place just out of their love of LDing and wanting people to have a free place to learn and talk.

Lucid dreaming is a skill that can be learned by anyone. Like any other skill it takes time and a lot of practice to master.
No one expects you to be an expert over night.

As for Stephens book, I think it deserves all the promotion it gets. Its an amazing book that everyone that is interested in Lucid dreaming should have.

Originally Posted by Lolasaurus

I gotta say though
It occured to me how every time I read Stephen Laberge's name on this website it loses its credibility. I'm getting a sneaking suspicion that this whole website is just to market his book.

I had many lucid dreams (check my signature) and never even bought his book- all you need are the tutorials on this site and some willpower.
Otherwise, would you find it suspicious if einstein kept getting mentioned in physics forums?

As for the question "is lucid dreaming even real?", I totally get the validity of this question, though unlike religion/faith where the entire notion lies in belief, here it's different because I experience lucid dreams regularly, I walk through streets of vivid color and marvel on the deep HDTV-like vividness, and how my mind created it all. People who have experienced at least one lucid dream will all tell you that it's real.

What's questionable imo are astral projections and OBE's, or they are a hoax or they are just lucid dreams with a different type of awareness.

Definitely, the names "astral projections"/"OBE's" all step from lack of proper understanding regarding what is experienced by the dreamer, some misinterpret false awakenings as true out of body experiences.