A "WILD" assistance

Hi!

I've been trying alot of methods now. so far a DEILD been the best, but untill i can find an alarm clock that wakes me up then turns its self off, i may have to stay away from a DEILD, I'm not good with DILDS(i just cant seem to releizse that i'm dreaming)

When i been attempting wilds lately, i would feel the virbrations start at my feet, then i feel it at my chest. way i know this is the heavey feeling, but sadly......

THEN WHAT!??!?! i lay there for like 3 min feeling this heavey feeling on my chest, the virbrates stop, i can still move if i wanted too, it isnt true SP like where you cannot move at all. I'm like stuck between a hard place and a rock!

do a reality check.. Or try laying in the position you fall asleep in.

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Originally Posted by hellohihello

do a reality check.. Or try laying in the position you fall asleep in.

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When i attempt wilds, i find it most comftable to lay on my back, and i do RC, I just get stuck, i mean, i hate laying there for like 3 min with a heavey feeling on my chest, it's very umcomftable...

So what does this mean? i can still move(i'm not in fully SP) what do i do from this point on?

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Originally Posted by DreamingDragon

When i attempt wilds, i find it most comftable to lay on my back, and i do RC, I just get stuck, i mean, i hate laying there for like 3 min with a heavey feeling on my chest, it's very umcomftable...

So what does this mean? i can still move(i'm not in fully SP) what do i do from this point on?

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Can you fall asleep on your back? I can only WILD/DEILD in the position I fall asleep in. You don't need to be in full sleep paralysis to WILD. From there on out I would start painting your dreaming (Vild)

lol,, thats kinda hard to start painting st00f, when your struggling to breath!!!

I thought when i'm in SP i be hearing things, feeling weird stuff, all i feel is the heavyness on my chest that annoys the living hell out of me. i thought i get HH before i even manage to start painting dreamscape.

But i thought you had to be in full SP. i dont want to like get up and bang my head againts the wall by accident now..

P.S i sleep on my side.

Just focus on your breathing, and dont think about the fact that you are WILDing. The focusing on one thing keeps you aware and not wandering your thoughts till you get into an dream

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Originally Posted by Mixedpotatoes

Just focus on your breathing, and dont think about the fact that you are WILDing. The focusing on one thing keeps you aware and not wandering your thoughts till you get into an dream

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thanks, i mite as well try that. i guess its good that i dont get HH, it be less scary lol.

I've been at the same point, I was before under the impression that i NEEDED to be in full SP to WILD, however that is not the issue. And i personally find HH amazing :P

But what i do is what someone else said, imagine a dream scene. Or let the mind wonder further closer to sleep (while still remaining awake of course). Do you feel the heaviness fully wear off? If not you may want to try a RC when it does just "go away" Thats what i do sometimes :D

Ok, heres an update, 2 days ago i tryed a wild, laying on my side on the bed, i felt vibrations, and i coudn't help it, i concentrated on it, after about 1 min of concentrating on the virbrations, it dissaperd, now i'm just lying on the side of the bed, with heavyness on my chest, and virbrations completly gone, 5 min, 10 min went by, and yet nothing, i get bored of waiting, i get up and leave the room( and yes i did a rc) i wasn't dreaming...

So if i concentrat on virbrations, will it stop me from wilding?

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Originally Posted by DreamingDragon

Ok, heres an update, 2 days ago i tryed a wild, laying on my side on the bed, i felt vibrations, and i coudn't help it, i concentrated on it, after about 1 min of concentrating on the virbrations, it dissaperd, now i'm just lying on the side of the bed, with heavyness on my chest, and virbrations completly gone, 5 min, 10 min went by, and yet nothing, i get bored of waiting, i get up and leave the room( and yes i did a rc) i wasn't dreaming...

So if i concentrat on virbrations, will it stop me from wilding?

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Try not to focus on them. I've had the same thing happen to me and been stuck right where you are. I just dont focus on them anymore and they seem to carry out their duty. But also remember the vibrations are just an indicator. Some people dont even get them. You may have to rely on HH, are you performing this after a WBTB? And if so make sure your not waking yourself up too much because then it will be harder to get back to that sleeping point

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Originally Posted by Chewnie91

Try not to focus on them. I've had the same thing happen to me and been stuck right where you are. I just dont focus on them anymore and they seem to carry out their duty. But also remember the vibrations are just an indicator. Some people dont even get them. You may have to rely on HH, are you performing this after a WBTB? And if so make sure your not waking yourself up too much because then it will be harder to get back to that sleeping point

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No, i usaily go to sleep with my little bro(whos 2) and i sleep in room with him intill he falls asleep, so i attempted a wild( I felt tired) Any tips on how NOT to concentrait on the virbrations..?

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Originally Posted by DreamingDragon

No, i usaily go to sleep with my little bro(whos 2) and i sleep in room with him intill he falls asleep, so i attempted a wild( I felt tired) Any tips on how NOT to concentrait on the virbrations..?

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Well that could be one of your primary problems. Its VERY difficult to WILD from the start of sleep, i've only done it maybe once. Its best to do after a WBTB, then you will get the best results. As for the vibrations, just concentrate on breathing, counting, apply an object to each letter of the alphabet. A sound that may be in the room (ex. the fan)

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Originally Posted by Chewnie91

Well that could be one of your primary problems. Its VERY difficult to WILD from the start of sleep, i've only done it maybe once. Its best to do after a WBTB, then you will get the best results. As for the vibrations, just concentrate on breathing, counting, apply an object to each letter of the alphabet. A sound that may be in the room (ex. the fan)

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alrite thank you, and lol, i don't like counting when i try to sleep. i do noticed at this point i find it hard to keep my mind from drifting,i have to like fight with my mind not to daydream while i try to wild and fall asleep.

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Originally Posted by DreamingDragon

alrite thank you, and lol, i don't like counting when i try to sleep. i do noticed at this point i find it hard to keep my mind from drifting,i have to like fight with my mind not to daydream while i try to wild and fall asleep.

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Dont fight it too much. You have to let it wonder while still keeping slight control (so you dont just fall asleep) Dont keep it from wondering. And with that, you should enter a dream

I would say a good thing is not to try and focus on the body too much and try and separate your body from your mind as much as possible. This is a hard thing to do I guess, but if you don't try it then you'll probably be going through the motions of state-checking all the time by asking yourself " Am I relaxed enough?" " Are the vibrations stronger than the last time I tried?" etc. I'm not sure if you're good at visualising dream-scenes yourself, but if you can focus your mind on trying to create a dream location ,such as maybe your own house or place where you work and actually explore the location in your minds eye then it will keep you more occupied than worrying about what your body is doing.

Also, try feeling things around you with your virtual hands even though you're not yet dreaming, textures of walls, grass etc and just try to make your mind preoccupied with other things entirely. You never know, this might jolt the body into firing up the true WILD state and once that starts you'll really know it as it will probably be over after a couple of minutes, but it definitely won't be the same feeling as just lying there with tingling or vibrating sensations for minutes on end.

For me personally, the heavy feeling that you feel is a very good sign, as is the falling through the bed sensation which will all happen in a kind of auto-pilot way. As for exiting into an actual dream, well, I've still to work on that, lol. But hope I talk some sense even though I'm not a master in any way.