Thread: WILD but no dream

ok first of all i want to thank all the people who are helping and giving advise. i worship u people who have mastered it

ok so heres the problem that im pretty sure a lot of people are also having. I try to WILD and enter SP after like half an hour. till that part its all good but then after that absolutely nothing happens. Its like you know that you're sleeping and ur mind is awake but there are simply no HH or dreaming. I do imagine myself doing something that uses senses but then again nothing happens. btw i havent had time to try this with WBTB so i just do it during afternoon naps which brings up the question that is it only effective when you're in REM stage?

ps: time goes really fast when you're in SP. i was in this state in my bed for 4 hours in it trying to enter LD but it felt like it was only half an hour and yes i do reality checks after getting up to make sure its not FA
its a pretty good feeling to know that u can sleep while not sleeping at the same time haha

so yea any suggestions?

Same thing that happened to me earlier today with my third WILD attempt.

I could feel my body sleep, and the pressure going up to my head. There were a couple of distractions in the house but i didn't pay attention to it.

I knew my body had to be asleep, and i was starting to drift off to sleep, but was on the edge of consciousness, and no HH or anything.

Can you enter the dream before REM sleep?

wellll any responses? im gona try this very soon again

I'm pretty much a little past where you guys are but it is really easier to do a WBTB with staying up for at least 5 mins. I'm pretty sure if you just try to go right into a lucid without being in REM it's a lot hard so for noobs like us its better to WBTB.

I had my first lucid dream a week ago by using WILD with WBTB and yea its WAY easier, but the problem is i dont get much time to do everyday. o well im just gona keep trying till im there

You could be doing everything right, but your timing is wrong. If that is the case, you will just have no REM dreams to enter. Instead of entering a lucid dream, you will sort of just hang in thoughtless NREM sleep, like a deep trance. This is a cool place to be, as you have described, but not real useful for standard lucid goals.

You should definitely find the time to try the same thing you are doing after a few hours of sleep and a WBTB. After you get it to work the predictable way (after a WBTB), you can try it during naps

Another thing you can do is deprive yourself of a little sleep the night before, so you know you will have REM rebound during your afternoon nap. That might help if you just absolutely refuse to WBTB. If you're worried about being too tired during the day, you could bomb some nyquil or Melatonin the night before, so you lose some REM sleep, but no deep sleep.

it seems to me that your problem is lack of recall. you may have actually had a lucid but you cant remember it and it seems like it never happened
you dream multiple times every single night whether you remember them or not

this is why developing good dream recall is KEY to lucid dreaming

there can be people who are very good at lucid dreaming but dont even remember, and every lucid seems to be their first because they dont remember the others and after they wake up they forget completely, and the process repeats itself. kinda like that crappy movie 50 first dates with adam sandler

oh trust me i have a dream journal and i remember 1-2 dreams every night so i have good enough recall to remember them