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      Quote Originally Posted by DreamChaser View Post
      In my experience of wondering what worked,
      I found its best to try one thing, then the other, then lastly both together.
      Otherwise what did it?
      If you get a LD it may have just been one of these only that helped.


      good point..
      i'm kind of impatient in these situations.

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      we can train ourselves to have patience in reality and in learning our dreams. patience is the key if you pursue it with all your heart.

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