But both RB and Myself accept that vivid dreams can occour - to some degree - outside of REM. So you may now be arguing with no-one.
FYI RB's not making reference to that particular discussion. He's making reference to your previous assertions on SP during WILDs.
You know, were you stated that you didn't beleive that SP could be used to enter dreams, and several posters offered "counterexamples" which "falsified" your "hypothesis".
Hey, what do you think about the papers conclusion that atonia occours outside REM? Muscle atonia = rem atonia.
Interesting no?
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