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    1. 09-29-2008 12:51 AM #1
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      So what exactly is visualization???

      Okay so is it daydreams??? Well because before I go to bed I vizulize I Think about this series I read and I twist it and add characters and things So I was wondering if this is vizualization??? I know this really doesn't belong with attaining lucid dreaming wel I guess It could how could I use this to become lucid???
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    2. 10-05-2008 08:56 PM #2
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      Hi,

      Visualisation is pretty much creating a mental image. Daydreaming is a series of mental images, similar to a dream which I guess takes on a life of its own. So I see visualization as controlled, while a daydream, still just being mental images, takes away your awareness of you sorroundings.

      I don't know the dream/daydream mechanics so I can't tell you if it can give you a LD. To be lucid you must first enter an actual dream. This means that you have to be in REM sleep. If you manage to keep your visualization and overall awareness of the situation untill you reach this dream stage, then yes, it can help you become lucid.

      There is probably some other way of using this as an induction technique, but that's the one I thought of right now. Perhaps visualizing (or fantasizing something), while understanding that the whole thing could be a dream, might reapear as a thought or an actual scenario after you fall asleep and pass into REM and thus a dream.

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    4. 10-06-2008 11:17 PM #4
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      thankyou finally someone replied!
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      I wouldn't lump visualization and daydreams together. Visualization, in the sense used by WILD tutorials, is not a daydream. A daydream has a narrative that is completely controlled by you. This won't do for a WILD. A visualization is a series of mental images that you just sort of let flow. Different thing.
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    6. 10-06-2008 11:21 PM #6
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      thanks for answering!
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      Well when I daydream it's like its happening in the back of my head is this right?
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      I often do this sort of daydreaming as I fall asleep. It starts off as a daydream that I am in control of, but as I get closer to sleep, the story gets out of my control and I lose all sense of myself. If you can stay aware of this process, you can watch your daydream turn into a real dream, and become lucid.
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    9. 10-07-2008 09:33 PM #9
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      Well I am not sure because when you go to sleep you are so far from the REM Cycle thast its impossible isn't it?
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      Quote Originally Posted by drewmandan View Post
      A daydream has a narrative that is completely controlled by you. This won't do for a WILD. A visualization is a series of mental images that you just sort of let flow. Different thing.
      I think it's the other way around. The daydream has the "dream" feature, letting go with the flow of the narrative. Visualization is the conscious mental imagery.

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      Well I am not sure because when you go to sleep you are so far from the REM Cycle thast its impossible isn't it?
      It's not impossible to reach the REM stage. That's what WILDing is all about.
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      How boring staring into darkness while you wait for REM???
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