Visual Hallucinations

[reapsltd666]

Before I tell my experience and what happened, I'd like people to know that I've been "Lucid Dreaming", for about 3 months now, using all the techniques and what not, and I've gotten pretty well rounded with techniques like WILD and DEILD. Though this itself is an accomplishment, I don't have to tell you guys that there is an entire world of confrontations awaiting you on the "other side". Ok, so I've just awoken from dreaming, about 6 hours of sleep, got up and did my little routine before going back to WILD. I laid in bed, and lo and behold, success. The dream wasn't very long, and I awoke in my bed once again. Use a DEILD, give it a go, success again with a second dream. Also not very long, I awoke again and this is where things get furry I was on my stomach, comfortable, earplugs in, just awaiting for SP to kick in and sure enough it did. I think this was the fastest it ever hit me, about 3 minutes, maybe less in. I started getting those vibrations, it felt like a small train was passing through me or being electrocuted, and the auditory hallucinations started kicking in during big time. Loud screeching, people yelling my name, all that creepy shit. I'm used to it though, as I've come to experience AH's a lot during my 3 months of LD'ing and I'm able to stay relaxed during. But then the visuals, which I've never come to experience nor have I ever heard anyone here experience happened. I was looking at my room from my bed, and I notice something is wrong. It was dark like at night, the walls look like they are bubbling and waving, and there are weird, 2 dimensional moving drawings in my room. Basically, draw a 2 foot circle, fill it up with black squiggly lines, and you'll have the little things that my room was full of during this. All moving, rotating, bouncing around. I'd say there were probably 7 of them not sure. This was very unnerving to me, and I tried to get through it (SP) and I ended finding myself lying in bed at the end, a little shooken, but wanting to give it another try. It felt like stepping into the mind of a schizophrenic, someone with a very delusional, twisted warped view on reality and it was pretty scary. I turn on my side. see my clock. "12:27". Close my eyes and focus on my breathing. I open my eyes again, and I notice there are no numbers on my clock. I'm looking directly at it and not one number. I reached for my cell phone to make sure I wasn't dreaming. Flip it open, hit all the numbers, and it doesn't light up at all. I hit the power button and it won't turn on. This scared the shit out of me cause of what happened before, so I woke my self up and here I am now typing. That was my experience. So my question I guess is what kind of VH's have you guys come to experience during a WILD or DEILD or any technique like that, what did you see, and what was your reaction.

[blahaha]

That sounds like you were already in a dream, not actually having hallucinations. Or were you awake during that part? It was probably HI. I'm not sure I fully understand you. When I sucessfully do a wild my room is usually the first thing I see like I just opened my eyes. I usually see something weird as well. Electronics not working properly is a common theme in dreams. Numbers change often, don't like right, are replaced by other letters or weird symbols, weird stuff like that. It sounds like you just had a freaky dream.

[reapsltd666]

I was seeing my room bubble and wave and all the "squiggly line cicles" during SP, while all the vibrations and AH's were happening to me, so I guess you could say I was still awake. I got through SP thinking I was awake still, but actually in my dream, lying in bed. Since I thought I was awake, I tried to DEILD again, but then I saw my clock and you know the rest.

[EchoEclipse71]

The hallucinations you experience while dreaming are a result of dimethyltryptamine (DMT), an endogenous tryptamine and incredibly potent hallucinogenic substance. You can extract it from all sorts of plant roots and such. It causes both closed eye and open eye visual disturbances as well as just flat-out hallucinations where reality and imagination have no boundary (just like in dreams). Sometimes when I take naps, especially outdoors in the sun, I will "snap" to a fully awakened state and for several seconds objects will take on abnormal proportions and move around. I'm fairly certain that these conscious hallucinations are just a result of that chemical being present in neural synapse while you are not fully asleep. DMT is a fascinating chemical, you should research it a little bit, maybe even try and cook some up. It's evidently very physiologically harmless considering how you produce it and trip on it for hours each night.

[reapsltd666]

ya I know all about DMT, the pineal gland and all that and its relation to dreaming, as you can see by the picture of my avatar, I'm quite into psychedelics, but were getting off topic here.

[EchoEclipse71]

Sorry mate, I didn't read your whole post. I thought you were unsure why you were experiencing those things. It breaches a cool topic of discussion though. Could we perhaps induce the production of DMT on higher-than-normal levels by some method of thought? Out of body meditation experiences and such seem to be a manifestation of this, but I can't be sure as I've never achieved anything close to that without a substance of questionable legality.

[webdiva]

I get Hypnogic imagery most often if I've woken up in the middle of the night. As I'm attempting to go back to sleep I can see clear visuals while laying there. People, scenes, colors, you name it. One WILD I had went like this... Of course this turned into a fully blown lucid dream but i never did actually lose consciousness during the transition to sleep. I was lying in bed, basically with the intention of WILDing... and I fell into the all familiar sleep state without losing consciousness. At this point it felt like someone grabbed my feet and pulled me really hard. I landed on the ground, on my stomach and watched as I was being dragged through my apartment. I was dragged all the way to the far corner of my living room. It looked pretty much like my apartment except the couch was different. Then while I'm in the corner of the living room, something started to obstruct my vision. It appeared as if some type of web or cocoon was being spun around me, then it started looking like something similar to honeycombs. I decided to just sit back and see what happened next. Suddenly the honeycomb melts away and I'm under water looking at a sea full of beautiful fish. Really breath taking shit. I just observed for awhile and then my cat made a noise and I was back in the waking world. For the last few years I've had incredibly good luck with falling asleep without losing consciousness, it's quite a feeling. Usually I try to OBE but this time I had intention of going the LD route. It was quite enjoyable, albeit short.

[PenguinDreamer]

My experience of something like this was first i heard voices just talking randomly, i wasn't really paying attention to them, then i started a visual one where i was walking down the street (it was like looking through my eyes) and i saw this man in a blue jacket, when he turned his head around it was a big white oval with a drawn on face like a 7 year old had drawn it, this kind of freaked me out and i went out of the SP. Now i think about it the face was kind of funny, but at the time it was so sudden and unexpected it freaked me out.

[euphoria_]

ya I know all about DMT, the pineal gland and all that and its relation to dreaming, as you can see by the picture of my avatar, I'm quite into psychedelics, but were getting off topic here. your avatar an Alex Grey painting? i am myself quite interested in psychedelics as well... DMT is an astonishing chemical and it's a shame to see so many scientists have dismay for it especially with it's potential to unlock the true power within the human mind.