Thread: My lucid dreams do not feel real at all.

I have been experimenting the last two nights with lucid dreams. I discovered an interest in them after finding a website about them a couple days ago.

Okay, so I have very frequent lucid dreams persay, or in other words, II am aware that I am dreaming in most of my dreams. My lucid dreams normally happen after I wake up first thing in the morning, and then go back to sleep.

Here is my problem. My dreams are always kind of fuzzy, and not very clear. And so many people descrive these ultra-realistic dreams that they have. I dont really have any of my senses other than moving and seeing. And nothing is really clear, its always kind of foggy, and I only remember bits and peices upon waking.

Is there anyways to improve the lucidness and realness of my dreams? And what are some techniques to help me remember them?

Am I even acheiving a REAL lucid dream?

By definition, a lucid dream is simply a dream in which you know you're dreaming. The term "lucid dream" does not have to correlate in any way with that dream's vividness or the control you have over it. However, it's said that by rubbing your dream hands together or spinning in a circle, your dream becomes clearer and more stable. Or, try yelling out "Increase lucidity!", or something to that effect. Unfortunately, though I've had a few clear lucid dreams, I'm still working on getting them more frequently, so I can't say much other than the one time I did rub my hands together, I do think the dream became clearer. Maybe you could literally try yelling out to your subconscience during a lucid dream to take away the fogginess. Are your normal dreams like this too? If it's only the lucids, it might just be a matter of stabilizing them and increasing their clarity. Otherwise, I guess I'm not really sure.

That's really weird. Whenever I realize I'm dreaming, its like my focus increases, and everything looks (and feels) lifelike. Really trips you out when you wake up and its not much different.

Try stability techniques, or yelling random commands out (not too loud ). I've never really heard of anyone having frequent low quality dreams. If you're having realization that you're dreaming randomly during a dream, it might be that you're realizing it near the end of a dream (near the end of my dreams things become less amazing).

Next time (if ever) you wake up after a dream, figure out how long it's been since you've been asleep. If it's over 6 and a half hours (will vary from person to person) or so, I think that's why they're not very realistic.

Also, don't be afraid to try a technique like WILD (wake inducing) it really makes things look scary realistic if you have a good one. A hard technique, but once you have even one, it's well worth it.

@baseballmk92

Hey, thanks so much for all your input. Those all sound like good idea's, I am fairly new to all of this. I will make sure to make a note in my dream journal to try it tonight.

It's not only lucids though, although the only dreams I remember that aren't lucid, I am usually woken up from. But all of my dreams have had this fogginess to them. Maybe I just need to train my mind to understand that I can make my dream more clear and that I have complete power over it.

@Conquer

Thanks again for your help. Yes, from the feedback I've gotten, most people don't have them near as often. I have about 1 -3 a night, but usually at least one every night. But they are never very clear, or real feeling, and usually very short.

I will try setting an alarm perhaps, for a couple hours after, then try to go back to sleep. I find when I drift back to sleep after waking up, Its easier for me to go into an LD.

I've read about WILD, and attempted to do it today, but ended up letting my brain go offtrack, and I ended up halfsleep and waking up an hour later with nothing.

But I intend to experiment alot with WILD whenever I have the time, and really try at it. Everyone I've heard from says that they are amazing. And I think with some effort I could grasp it.

Thankyou so much for the detailed responce.

There are lucid dreams that don't feel real at all. It mostly depends on your sleep stage, energy level and perceptual maturity in dreams. You can manipulate your sleep inside the dream, exercise your attention or both.

There is an empty space around the bubbles of the fragile dream construction. You can delve into deeper stages of sleep if you jump through the floor or step into a wall and start to fall in that space. It's important to fall head first.

You may want to increase your presence or perceptual coherence before you do this so you have a better chance at remaining conscious. The best way to do this is to look at your palm very closely. Look for the tiniest details that you can make out.

Unfortunately, this fixates your physical eyes and brings you closer to wakefulness so don't stare for too long. Best to shift your attention around your palm, and move to other objects as well. This will make your dream very stable and detailed. Now jump!

@Transflux

Wow, that is really really interesting. Possibly the most bizarre piece of advice that I have heard so far. It sounds kind of hard to be honest. But Im going to give it a shot and practice it. The good thing about getting LD's regularly, is I have lots of time to practice. I've made a list of things to try tonight to improve clarity and realism in my dream tonight. Im really hoping it works out. Surprisingly, the only trouble I have with my eyes waking me up, is when I close them for a while and then reopen them. Other than that, talking outloud alot is what wakes me up the most.

@ Everyone to Reply so Far

Thankyou soo much, Im really glad I have found this site. I love how everyone is so detailed with there responses. It's really helping me out.
I will make sure to make note of these things, and try them tonight, and the next couple of nights.

I can not wait to acheive a realistic LD!!!

Oh, and feel free to reply more if you wish. I will be keeping an eye on this thread still.

Good luck! ^^

I'm going to try to wake induce a lucid tonight, this thread inspired me. It's been a while.

And I like the personalized responses. Hehe.

Good luck to you as well.
I'm glad it inspired you.

Haha, yes, I definently enjoy the personalness of this site.

Usually my dreams are normal without any vividness until I become lucid. I can recall many lucid dreams where I took the time to think, "Wow, this dream looks very real." Push a little more awareness into your time and look around you, making out details. Such details include "What's the texture of my wall, and what color?" Just noticing details of objects can be planted into your dream world, for all you know, the next time you sleep.

It sure does work. One time one of my lucid dreams was very vivid, and coincidently I was in my room, where I saw it so many times in real life that I know the exact details of it. Another lucid dream I had a month or two back, I was looking into a forest during winter, so very detailed that it amazed me. The reason for this is because I lived to the side of a forest my whole life, and even explored in it during my childhood, since it's right behind my backyard. I've seen it so many times, it was a simple explanation why the dream looked so real.

Just be a little more aware of your surroundings and soon enough your dreams, at some point at default, will have much more vivid details. You might forget what you noted down about any object, but when it comes to making out dream details, your mind doesn't forget.

Originally Posted by noiseissound

@baseballmk92

Hey, thanks so much for all your input. Those all sound like good idea's, I am fairly new to all of this. I will make sure to make a note in my dream journal to try it tonight.

It's not only lucids though, although the only dreams I remember that aren't lucid, I am usually woken up from. But all of my dreams have had this fogginess to them. Maybe I just need to train my mind to understand that I can make my dream more clear and that I have complete power over it.

This is a funny coincidence, because last night, for the first time ever, I had 2 DILD's in one night. Now, looking back on them, neither were vivid or life-like (and all I can remember doing is flying!), so I can relate to what you're saying about your dreams being foggy. However, a few nights ago, I was attempting to WILD by visualizing scenes and actions as I drifted off into sleep (so that I might WILD without going through a stage of sleep paralysis), and my thoughts began to drift off slightly as I retained a low level of awareness, and eventually I remember visualizing/thinking of checking my email and deleting a few from my inbox, when suddenly, the scene became three-dimensional, and I immediately assumed I was in a WILD, because everything was completely life-like and 3-D now. Unfortunately, I startled myself awake with the discovery that suddenly my visualization had gained a third dimension along with clarity and realism, so this possible WILD only lasted about a second. However, it does show me that WILD's do in fact have that potential to seem very real compared to some DILD's, so maybe that's a great part of what there is to the vivid vs. not vivid lucid dreams.

If you find you can WILD and stay calm through sleep paralysis, I encourage you to try to do so (the few times I've unintentionally entered sleep paralysis, it's been pretty freaky), but since I personally haven't been able to enter full sleep paralysis at bedtime, and would probably jolt myself out of it anyway if I did, lately I've been trying to drift straight off into sleep while visualizing scenes and actions with a very low level of awareness. The next time my visualizations suddenly appear three-dimensional and real (presumably this is the moment they’ve become a vivid WILD), I plan not to startle myself out of it.

By the way, in one of my lucid dreams last night, I started rubbing my hands together, and the dream definitely grew brighter. I’m not sure about clearer, but it definitely brightened it as I rubbed them together.

@Caleb

More great advice. Starting today I am going to start paying alot more attention to detail, and also do my RC's alot more regularly. Hopefully this starts helping out in my dreams.

I heard that creating friction between your hands increases vividness. Worth a shot.

Sorry, i'm gonna lock this thread.
1. OP and others were not here for over 2 years
2. we have a lot of new threads about SP
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