Thread: Wha goes after numbness?

I have made many attempts at wild during evening. I know pretty good, how it feels like to be detached from body, still i have never experienced something like vibrations. Sometimes I experienced some hypnagogic imagery, which was visual most of the time.

I know, i shouldnt be trying to wild at the evening, becouse my chances to succeed are diminished nearly to zero. Still I take it as developing my support skills.

I would like to know, what happens after the body goes numb for you? The most I achieved was some kind of dild invoked by my WILD attempt, but i never experienced direct transition from real into dream consciousness.

I have two questions.

1. Whats the limit I can achieve in my evening attempts? {whats the point, where I cannot reach any further}

2. Whats the difference between evening and WBTB attempt {It would be superb, if you described whats most significant for you }

Thanx.

The limit is the point where you wait so long you start thinking "wtf? how come im not asleep yet" and the difference is that you wake up in the middle of a REM cycle during WBTB and I dont think theres REM right away *most of the time.

what happens after the numbness and all that for me, and i use those words explicitly "for me", was my body starts vibrating violently, its just a sensation, its not happening for real, and while thats happenng there's lots of auditory hallucinaitons which is a little freaky, then its that feeling of being pulled from your body and into the dream