I have made many attempts at wild during evening. I know pretty good, how it feels like to be detached from body, still i have never experienced something like vibrations. Sometimes I experienced some hypnagogic imagery, which was visual most of the time.

I know, i shouldnt be trying to wild at the evening, becouse my chances to succeed are diminished nearly to zero. Still I take it as developing my support skills.

I would like to know, what happens after the body goes numb for you? The most I achieved was some kind of dild invoked by my WILD attempt, but i never experienced direct transition from real into dream consciousness.

I have two questions.

1. Whats the limit I can achieve in my evening attempts? {whats the point, where I cannot reach any further}

2. Whats the difference between evening and WBTB attempt {It would be superb, if you described whats most significant for you }

Thanx.