Thread: *THAT* was just effing weird. I think I dreamed about lucid dreaming without having a lucid dream.

Ok, so basically I had a nightmare first. Then I had a false awakening where I realised that the nightmare wasn't real. Then I went to the bathroom and realised I had like 6 or 7 toes on my feet. Realised I was lucid dreaming, but I don't think I convinced myself of it, because I closed my eyes, and felt something weird in my dream body. But I don't think it was real because I opened my eyes into....guess what? ANOTHER false awakening. And the stupid thing is that in THIS false awakening, for some reason I was playing a videogame and one of the choices said REALITY CHECK *RIGHT* ON IT.



AND I DIDN'T DO THE STUPID REALITY CHECK!


That was weird.


Anyway, for my question, I felt a bunch of strange vibrations in my body, but I think I was dreaming about the vibrations because of the double false awakening because my body didn't seem tangible like reality was. I actually read about the strange vibrations so maybe I was only really lucid for like, a moment, enough to change the direction of my dream, and my subconscious took care of the rest?...so, real lucid dream, or strange dream version of lucid dreaming?

I've definitely read people saying that after doing a reality check in a dream and realizing it was a dream, they felt vibrations through their body as they became lucid. In my most distinct DILD that I can still remember, I definitely felt something weird as my dream became lucid...I'm not sure whether I felt vibrations...but I definitely felt something weird, and I've definitely read people mentioning vibrations simply as a part of becoming lucid within a dream. By definition, a lucid dream is just being aware that you are dreaming (regardless of the amount of control you have for it), so if those vibrations occurred as you initially realized you were dreaming (too many toes), it's possible that you might've been "lucid" for a second before you had another false awakening, leading you to again believe you were awake.

I can't fully tell whether this was a true lucid dream for that moment, or if it was just a dream about having a lucid dream, but since you realized you were dreaming for that moment, you were clearly close to having a full DILD. But if you were aware for a moment that you were dreaming, shouldn't it have been a bit suspicious that you woke up, not in bed, but playing a video game? Maybe you were lucid for that moment, but not quite aware enough to resist your brian's next trick: another false awakening.

Do reality checks in real life whenever you can. Maybe doing them upon waking up would be a good idea, considering all these false awakenings. That way, any future false awakenings will turn into lucid dreams.

Reason you din't do the reality check is because the brain at that time was not 'hooked' up to reality checking. Brain chemistry I realised is what links reality checking with dreams, hard to control. You can realise something odd in a dream but not realise your dreaming...not that you din't train enough just that the brain wasn't 'linked' to the idea "You May Be Dreaming".

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Unfortunatly that has happened a lot to me, a couple nights ago to be specific

When I had my first lucid dream, as I was coming out of it, i.e. waking up, I felt the vibrations all over my body. Having spoken in the dream after I'd realised I was in the dream, unfortunately the words came out of my physical mouth (i.e. I spoke out loud) and thereby woke myself, and, to her annoyance, my wife, up; consequently the dream was only lucid for a very short time. So because of the very short period between becoming lucid and waking up, maybe the vibrations occurred because I'd become lucid. However, I haven't had these vibrations when having any other lucid dreams. Also, there were differences between that LD and my others, viz. that it was the only LD in which I dreamt I was in a real place, i.e. my study (my other LDs have been in imaginary places) and there were electrical phenomena in that particular LD. So I'm wondering whether the vibrations have something to do with the relationship between the dream body and electricity or whether my experience was verging on an OOBE. Certainly the vibrations are sometimes associated with OOBEs, e.g. you deliberately bring them on when using the spot of light technique in astral projection.

I felt the vibrations going through my body as I came out of my first LD but not in any subsequent LD. You can deliberately induce those vibrations using Muldoon's (or it Monroe's?) spot of light technique, as a step towards astral projection. The vibrations are relatively easy to induce but giving yourself an OOBE is much more difficult. I don't know whether it's significant but my first LD was the only one where I was in a real, recognisable room, so I guess it was a bit more like an OOBE, but not quite.

Just like skye3000, I think a couple of nights ago I also dreamt I was having a LD without actually having one. In the dream, I said to those around me "Fly like me. It's a dream, so we can fly." and I proceeded to show them how to fly. So I seemed to recognise that I was in a dream but, unlike all my other LDs, I remembered very little of what happened in the dream. All my other LDs I can remember the detail of clearly for years afterwards. So was this actually a LD or a pseudo LD?

mmm, you can dream whatever you want in a dream, and also, you can dream you are lucid dreaming.
they always say that if you know you are dreaming, you are lucid, but I slightly disagree.
being lucid is knowing you are dreaming, with the addition of the waking up of the logic part of the brain(you need it to recognize you are dreaming) and the ability to control your CHOICES. It's all in one. but if you have one of these individually, I won't say you are lucid dreaming.

It's my opinion based on my experience.

I have dreams of SP, WILDing, and even thinking I'm lucid without actually being lucid. It's not uncommon.

But it's annoying, isn't it?

I once had a dream about dreaming, about
dreaming of Lucid Dreaming. It's pretty hard to explain, but I don't call it an actual LD.

Yes, it can be a real kick in the behind.

I recall once I had this unusual dream in which I was reading a book about none other than lucid dreaming and... that was really pretty much it.
The act of being able to read alone was screaming 'uh, brain to dreamer, hello?'.
Even the book was titled 'Dreaming for dummies' for crying out loud.

Ummm I dont think I have ever dreamed that I was lucid but not really being lucid. but I have had control over non lucid dreams. Being able to think and use special powers and do whatever I want however I want but without the knowledge that I was dreaming.

Skye3000 suggests that he might have been dreaming about lucid dreaming instead of actually having a lucid dream. In recent times, I have been studiously trying to have more lucid dreams, largely without success, i.e. I have been noting down my dreams immediately after waking up and subsequently identifying my dream signs. However, one night I definitely (and frustratingly) dreamt about lucid dreaming instead of actually having a lucid dream. I dreamt I'd had a number of lucid dreams and was trying to puzzle out whether they were lucid dreams, because I wasn't conscious in them but they had some other characteristic that made me think they might have been lucid dreams. If only I could actually have more lucid dreams instead of just dreaming about the subject!

I sometimes wonder after an LD if I was ACTUALLY lucid, or if I was DREAMING I was lucid... Is that possible?

Originally Posted by Und3rP4rr

I sometimes wonder after an LD if I was ACTUALLY lucid, or if I was DREAMING I was lucid... Is that possible?

From my own experience and that of others on this thread, yes - it certainly is possible.

i had a dream that i was reading this forum.Dreamviews.com.exactly this forum.
And there was a guy with avatar of some ghost image saying that only one thing he had to do to WILD is to concentrate on pineal gland and breathing.
(yes - i know that here is such topic and i read this month ago).
And i did not realized that it was dream.

And yes, i could read every letter.

Originally Posted by kartogon

i had a dream that i was reading this forum.Dreamviews.com.exactly this forum.
And there was a guy with avatar of some ghost image saying that only one thing he had to do to WILD is to concentrate on pineal gland and breathing.
(yes - i know that here is such topic and i read this month ago).
And i did not realized that it was dream.

And yes, i could read every letter.

That's interesting that you could read every letter, because one of the Universal dream signs is that you can't read in dreams. Certainly in ordinary dreams I've seen, say, a page of what vaguely looks like writing on a page of a book, but find that I can't actually see and read more than 2 or 3 words. I wonder, as the logic part of the brain presumably kicks in upon attaining lucidity, whether that enables one to read properly in a dream?

I remember a dream about being lucid without actually being lucid, I had so many false awakenings that when I woke I was dreaming about being lucid and doing crazy things like going up to a closed food store and ordering everything on the menu. I wont call those real LDs because I think it seriously was just a regular dream.

I just had the same dream and I had three false awakenings and I ended up dreaming in a dream 3 dofferent times. All 3 "dream dreams" i was lucid

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