Thread: Any good technique for seeing in your mind's eye?

I've read in several books on meditation and whatnot that a good practice is to try visualizing a candle flame. Mind you, I can't recall the exact procedure, but I've heard it helps to actually look at the flame (probably through squinted lids, staring into a candle for a while might start to hurt!) and then moving to simply visualizing it in your head. I've tried this myself and I've found that one of the keys to keeping an image in mind (for me personally) is movement. If I try to focus on a static image for a while, it eludes me. But if I imagine the object in three dimensions, and 'turn it' in my head, I can focus on it quite well. I suppose this makes sense since your brain is used to processing a constant stream of changing stimuli. I assume that with practice it becomes much easier to keep stable, unchanging images in mind for a long time.

But again, I'm not sure that is really the procedure here. However, I doubt it would hurt to try.

What worked for me was doing what dreamchaser said. Hold your hands infront of you and close your eyes. Now, Look past your eye lids and actually see them in your mind. I cant exactly explain how, but you should see the whole picture.

Im still at it but im making some progress Are hypnagogic image's and seeing though the mind eye the same? I asked because when im about to fall asleep. I see small hypnagogic image's but there in full color but kinda dull but can be sharpen upon focusing on them.Then when i try to see out of my minds eye it's more like seeing though darkness and seeing shadows that start to become like an 360 degree view of my surrounding.Just wondeing are they the same? I got to ask how do you guy's remain so cool and calm during hypnagogic imagery? They get me every time it's allways a wtf moment for me thats why im trying so hard to see thorugh my dream eye's so i can get used to it. I mean one time i remember falling asleep then seeing a red sky with these aztec looking pyrimid's and with these cheap looking 2d cloud's slowing drifting by.So of course it was a wtf moment but i have a million of those episode's. And im still not use to it but yeah thats my main goal staying cool when hypnagogic image's appear.If i could get use to them then I would have it made then i could lucid dream every night

Originally Posted by donnieb2

Im still at it but im making some progress Are hypnagogic image's and seeing though the mind eye the same? I asked because when im about to fall asleep. I see small hypnagogic image's but there in full color but kinda dull but can be sharpen upon focusing on them.Then when i try to see out of my minds eye it's more like seeing though darkness and seeing shadows that start to become like an 360 degree view of my surrounding.Just wondeing are they the same? I got to ask how do you guy's remain so cool and calm during hypnagogic imagery? They get me every time it's allways a wtf moment for me thats why im trying so hard to see thorugh my dream eye's so i can get used to it. I mean one time i remember falling asleep then seeing a red sky with these aztec looking pyrimid's and with these cheap looking 2d cloud's slowing drifting by.So of course it was a wtf moment but i have a million of those episode's. And im still not use to it but yeah thats my main goal staying cool when hypnagogic image's appear.If i could get use to them then I would have it made then i could lucid dream every night

In my experience, if you focus on the hypnagogic imagery you only keep yourself awake and/or get to excited.
I have had more success ignoring it and doing my own imagery.
The fact i can do my own imagery during the HI, leads me to believe the HI is a transition stage to the dreamworld, but not using the minds eye.
I get HI and it is just the same to me as looking at the back of my eyelids to me.
Imagining images and dreaming is a whole different origin of sight I believe.

LoL about 2 hour's ago i tried taking a nap and yup same thing. I seen another hypnagogic image this time I seen my fan running and the light's were on.Strange because they was actually off but the fan was really on.Yeah i got to excited and ruined it. But what your saying is next time i should just ignore them and try to create my own scene? And when would i make an attempt to enter the dream?

Originally Posted by donnieb2

LoL about 2 hour's ago i tried taking a nap and yup same thing. I seen another hypnagogic image this time I seen my fan running and the light's were on.Strange because they was actually off but the fan was really on.Yeah i got to excited and ruined it. But what your saying is next time i should just ignore them and try to create my own scene? And when would i make an attempt to enter the dream?

I had a short lucid last night.
I find trying to enter does what your mind wants...tells it you are awake and forcing entry.
I like keeping semi-awake and entering the dream as I normally would.
At the least you are so light in sleep you are close to Lucid anyway, and your mind doesn't know.
I woke up last night and tried to WILD and I just lay awake for an hour so went to sleep.
But the waking for the WILD did something cos half way into a dream I just thought to look at my hand an voila! No reason for it.
I then floated above the ground for a minute, went over for tactile contact to calm myself and felt the wall. It was all crystal as I am looking now.
When I tried to fly higher to the ceiling, I drifted off to mid-dream blankness. It just fades away to normal sleep.

Didn't I make a thread about this a few days ago