Thread: LucidDreamGod's DEILD/Chaining Lucid Dreams technique

So I often go by these forums seeing topics requesting help in WILDing and such, if you want to get good at WILDing, then why not start out with a WILD type technique that is much easier to perform then a regular WILD, a method that has been proven to be very effective for me, it has given me a total of 6 Lucid Dreams in one night as a result of an early WBTB (stimulated my conscious).

My explanation of DEILD:

If you don't know what the method DEILD is it is a wild technique in it's own right, and stands for Dream Exit Introduced Lucid Dream. Though not to worry DEILD is much easier to perform then a regular WILD, in fact it usually takes me about 5-10 seconds if I am in the right mind state (though you have to realize it‘s different for everyone). The method originated from different books about lucid dreaming, often being referred to as chaining one lucid dream after another, the technique would often be used to prolong lucid dreams rather then begin them, and they can be used in both instances if you know how.

It's true DEILD is a rather simple method, a method in which you wake up in the middle of the night and don't move and your supposed to be able to wild back in, but that last part isn't described very well, and that’s the basics of my method, and why it is unique from others.

Step 1: Preparation

Ok you have to be able to stimulate a tactile sense like the feeling of your body moving but it's not actually moving, you can practice anytime you like, just try to day dream about yourself moving around, if you don't know what I mean it's like when you try to remember what something feels like just try to remember what it feels like to spin around, or do a summer salt you'll stimulate it soon enough, it's not like your actually going to physically feel this just go along with it though . You'll find your focus will continue to draw it's self back to your physical body, or the two bodies will be competing for dominance, that’s normal and you'll get used to making the imagined body win over.

Step 2: Waking up more often

Ok you know that time right when you first wake up from a dream or from sleep were you aren’t really fully awake your just kind of half way in-between (and you'll probably think your all the way woken up) you probably go through this stage every time you wake up unless you use an alarm clock or something, (you may be able to do DEILD with an alarm but it is not recommended, since the effects of first waking up are often eliminated) It is very important to get used to waking up and not moving, if you move a little it's fine sometimes. Occasionally you'll have dreamed of moving just awhile ago so your mind will think you already missed your chance, that’s possibly just a dream, and you were probably sleepy anyway so you didn't really get woken up by it.
There are several ways to wake up more often:
You can either Focus on a specific time, like I’ve noticed the body clock has this amazing ability to, if you focus on a specific time it has a greater chance of waking up around that time.
Wake up early as a kind of WBTB in the night after about 3-4 hours of sleep after you have experienced deep sleep for awhile. This puts a lot of consciousness back into your mind throughout the rest of the night, you will wake up more and notice it, plus you will have greater chances of lucid dreaming overall, the only downside is you might hate waking up so much, the effect is in correlation with how much time you spend awake.
Or you can simply establish that you should take notice of every time you wake up, or have it in your mind to wake up a lot.
Another way is to go to bed earlier then you usually would resulting in you waking up earlier then you usually do, and probably your going to wake up a lot more over all, I have observed this very clearly on school days in which I would sleep in an extra hour or two, sometimes when I slept 2 hours in I must have woken up more then 5 times .


Step 3: Catching the moment

So your probably thinking to yourself that when you first get up in the middle of the night naturally you just have a yawn, maybe trip your way to the bathroom, and roll over and go to sleep. Well the fact is everyone’s mind has a system that alerts it to a sudden event, often triggering you to act in a certain way as a result in a quick manner. A good example is that you have people staying over at your house and they sleep in your room, and you don’t want to run in on their temporary property, the first time you go straight up to your room and use the bathroom without even thinking until you get out that you must not go in, each day progresses and you keep realizing it sooner, until just as your about to go open the door to your room the thought is triggered to not do it (personal example). Hopefully you have had this kind of experience and know were I am going, so even though it’s too late and you’ve already moved around, it’s very important to have a talk with yourself, telling yourself to notice sooner and sooner.

Step 4: Transition

Ok so you‘ve all of a sudden found yourself awake in your bed, you haven’t moved the slightest amount or barely opened your eyes. Now if you can remember what we talked about earlier on tactile sensations then you could be in a dream soon, a good way to do this is perform a summer salt that is entirely in your mind, at first it may seem silly, but feel the feeling of bringing your head down, feel the difference in gravity, start lifting your imaginary feet up and roll all the way forward, bring your imaginary hands to stabilize your self. It may not feel like it's working but continue and after doing it a couple times (maybe a bunch but don't loose faith) you should feel like your body is in that position, you may think you accidentally moved but don't worry, it’s not that tricky to tell if it really worked, the imaginary body will feel much more real and your focus will be almost attached to it all the way. Now step out of your bed (probably where the dream will begin) and try opening your eyes, visualization may come as a bit hard at first but it comes eventually. if you have a fan or something running be sure to not even worry about it stopping you and just ignore it and continue, I’ve done it successfully with a fan running several times.

Great guide! Glad to see it finnaly up, going to give this a shot over the next few weeks and ill tell you my results!


Happy lucids!
Volcon

Curious, why would a fan stop you in the first place? breaks focus? thanks..

Originally Posted by 10,000days

Curious, why would a fan stop you in the first place? breaks focus? thanks..

Yes, a fan can be the source of another distraction, if you let it, so don't be like "oh no I can still hear the fan, it's going to stop me" because then your just paying more attention to it.

Awesome technique, awesome explanation, awesome description. I like the way you put many things through. I'm also planning to work on waking up more frequently, since I have some kind of trauma of waking up from my mother screaming me awake. DEILD itself is something I can do nicely, and hopefully I'll have time by now.

thanks LucidDreamGod, the way you explained it is excellent. i don't notice when i wake up in the middle of the night, so maybe a WBTB should help with that. i'll definitely work on it

Originally Posted by ForgottenDream

thanks LucidDreamGod, the way you explained it is excellent. i don't notice when i wake up in the middle of the night, so maybe a WBTB should help with that. i'll definitely work on it

Thank you, yeah I had the idea, and as many times as I've done WBTB's I've observed that I'll wake up more often or at least be more aware.

Originally Posted by Kromoh

Awesome technique, awesome explanation, awesome description. I like the way you put many things through. I'm also planning to work on waking up more frequently, since I have some kind of trauma of waking up from my mother screaming me awake. DEILD itself is something I can do nicely, and hopefully I'll have time by now.

Thank you, I hoped that I wrote it in a clear way, and haven't confused people with the way it's worded. Yeah it really depends a lot if you can be conscious of those times when you do wake up, I've theorized that we wake up a lot but just don't notice it, since it's common to wake up at the end of a REM period.

Originally Posted by Volcon

Great guide! Glad to see it finnaly up, going to give this a shot over the next few weeks and ill tell you my results!

Happy lucids!
Volcon

Thanks, let me know how successful it is for you, hopefully my WBTB idea can work for everyone.


Also an idea to wake up more often that I had forgot about will be added.

Btw, the thing about focusing on being conscious when you wake up in those little periods really works. I slept in the afternoon out of exhaustion, and I remember waking up like 3 times. The first thing I thought upon waking up was "am I conscious?" on each time I woke up. I also failed a WILD and it gave me quite a cool surfing-esque nonlucid. Guess I'm a lil rusty

I still don't understand how to wake up without an alarm. I did it sometimes when I was younger, but that just happened randomly.

Can you explain in great detail how you're doing it? Focusing on "time" isn't much to go from. Do you focuse on the clock, like "I'm going to wake up at 04:00!", "I'll wake up in 4 hours" or how are you doing it? I'm pretty sure the DEILD technique would work for me, if I could just get the WBTB-without-alarm part.

Originally Posted by Marvo

I still don't understand how to wake up without an alarm. I did it sometimes when I was younger, but that just happened randomly.

Can you explain in great detail how you're doing it? Focusing on "time" isn't much to go from. Do you focuse on the clock, like "I'm going to wake up at 04:00!", "I'll wake up in 4 hours" or how are you doing it? I'm pretty sure the DEILD technique would work for me, if I could just get the WBTB-without-alarm part.

Yeah it's ok if it's random.

It's not too complex, I just think I'm going to wake up at that specific time, and just expect it to happen without me having to do anything else. You don't use will power, I think thats the mistake some people might make, you simply think you'll wake up then, and leave the rest to your mind.

wahoo

ldg

i read your post yesterday and tried the summer salt imagery and i was so surprised that it immediately provided me with my most recent, vivid dream recall. I had awoke and layed still but did not recall my dream until i used that imagery. It actually gave me a rush, which didnt help me go back to sleep quickly. But it was an amazing feeling.

Thanks

Originally Posted by jukie3

ldg

i read your post yesterday and tried the summer salt imagery and i was so surprised that it immediately provided me with my most recent, vivid dream recall. I had awoke and layed still but did not recall my dream until i used that imagery. It actually gave me a rush, which didnt help me go back to sleep quickly. But it was an amazing feeling.

Thanks

Summer Salt?
Sommersault.

i hope no points will be deducted for speling

Not at all mate. Its the internet, not english class.

I did however spend a minute wondering what summer salt was.
(beach visualisation maybe?) It was a head scratcher.
I kicked myself when I realised.

LDG spelled sommersault as summer salt in his original post aswell...
Maybe that confused him

Need Help! I can get to step 4 with ease. But would like a response from the LDGod. How do you re-enter the dream if youve reached the end of the rem period? (without using sound). I see trailing HI, which I can hold onto briefly (10 sec at best) by focusing on my non physical body (hands, sommersaulting, visualizing all senses etc.) But it fades. I so want to grasp this technique, but need tutilage. I feel im missing something.

Did you try kind of letting yourself zone out for a moment, sometimes it helps to just have it planed out that your going to just zone out as if your going back to sleep, but check on yourself a minute or so later, similar to how the FILD technique works.

I'll give it a shot and post the results. Thanks for the reply. Forgive my newbieism, but whats the f for in FILD?

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Originally Posted by LucidDreamGod

finger http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=52001

Ive been trying to do this tech. along with the fild tech. I can get to the sleep paralysis part easily, but in making the transition, I seem to just blackout. The next moment I awaken seeing the trailing hyp. imagery, and recalling a non lucid dream. What am I missing? How come I blackout as opposed to transitioning? Its happened at every single attempt.

This isn't working for me. I lie there still with my eyes closed for ten minutes after waking from my dream and I hear its not supposed to take that long and absolutely nothing happens. Its so frustrating please help. I get frustrated since I know its not working but technically im doing nothing wrong am I missing something?

Did you try the tactile imagery steps I outlined? Funny I decide today is the day I'm gonna get back into DEILDing and there is the first reply to my thread in half a year.

Originally Posted by LucidDreamGod

Did you try the tactile imagery steps I outlined? Funny I decide today is the day I'm gonna get back into DEILDing and there is the first reply to my thread in half a year.

Yeah I always imagine either the feeling of getting out of bed or the feeling of sand under my feat and warmth while imagining a beach. Odd thing is I had a dream about being on an island that night but it wasn't lucid and didn't come from deilding I went through lying there with out any results and just fell back asleep after moving around and stuff and hours later I dreamt about it. Hmm I know i'm not going to give up on it but I don't know what I should change to get sucess when I follow the rules exactly....

Welcome back, LucidDreamGod. =)