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      Care to elaborate? Conjuring visuals hasn't been working out too well for me. Seems like I can get something for an instant, but then it just fades away into nothing again. Is it possible to be trying to hard to do this? Maybe I'm just investing way too much concentration in it.

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      What is happening? You get the SP... No feeling of separation? No vibrations? No visual or auditory hallucinations? You get board after a while and bring yourself out of it?

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      I feel vibrations when I'm transitioning into SP, where I kinda just drift around for a while. Occasionally I'll get a quick visual/audio hallucination. Like the other day I saw this detailed scene of a supermarket. But it was gone as soon as it came. I tried to bring it back but I couldn't do it.

      I don't get this feeling of separation though. It seems abstract to me even in SP. I try to grasp it but it never really works. I'm thinking maybe my mind just isn't tired enough, seems like I'm overthinking everything even when I'm trying to WILD. I'll give it a try after a WBTB tonight.

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      You might try imagining that your dream body is floating a few feet above your real body. If you can picture it clearly you might find your consciousness 'flickering' in between the two and settling in your dream body.

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      Quote Originally Posted by The Enterer View Post
      You might try imagining that your dream body is floating a few feet above your real body. If you can picture it clearly you might find your consciousness 'flickering' in between the two and settling in your dream body.
      Great idea Enterer. Will try that myself.
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      Sounds good. I got that sensation just a bit last night when I tried the rolling technique again. Still I'm just so rooted in my physical self its difficult to imagine scenarios, myself in a dream body, etc. I've heard about training it though maybe I can work on that a bit during the day. Either way I'll try that technique tonight or later today.

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