Thread: possible new technique (rwbtb)

Yes, I see what you mean, but I think WBTB would be better anyway because first of all, it will be adding all those hours up to make you even more tired than you would be by waking up every hour. Secondly, wouldn't that just be annoying? Being woken up by your alarm clock every hour?

To Summarize, I don't like this new technique, it's just the annoying version of WBTB and it's hard enough for some people as it is. And besides, you're more tired in normal WBTB anyway.

Sounds like it could work, but (and someone correct me if I'm wrong!) Your body might not enjoy that too much since it would affect your deep sleep. perhaps doing this in shorter intervals during a specific period of time might work. Sounds like it would be more of a technique to use if your practicing WILD and accidentally slipping into a dream during wild. good idea though

Originally Posted by [email protected]

Sounds like it could work, but (and someone correct me if I'm wrong!) Your body might not enjoy that too much since it would affect your deep sleep. perhaps doing this in shorter intervals during a specific period of time might would work. Sounds like it would be more of a technique to use if your practicing WILD and accidentally slipping into a dream during wild. good idea though

For some people it takes longer than an hour to get to sleep, that's if the moderate amount of people doing it are unlucky though.

I'm pretty sure I saw a similar technique a couple of years ago on a website called saltcube, or something. There was even a software alarm clock on there that you could download. You could change the duration of each period, and set it for several repetitions over varying lengths of time. I think you could actually burn it as an audio cd too (so you didn't have to have your computer on).

EDIT:

OK, so I found the site, but it has changed at lot, and no longer offers any free info whatsoever. The alarm clock software is probably buried in the course that now has to be paid for. It's just saltcube.com, if anyone is interested.

this tech should be called, HABILD, having a baby induced lucid dream

Originally Posted by lucid4sho

this tech should be called, HABILD, having a baby induced lucid dream

"Come on Miss Henderson, you're almost there! Hold on, why are you looking at your hands? Relax woman!"

http://www.saltcube.com/timer.html

Dont need to be registered, sets up different intervals. Also, I wanna say that it is also downloadable as flash format which can be saved to your PC, or imported to different portable devices that can run flash format.

I have been using this for quite some time now, It can be a bit disruptive, so if I need a really good nights sleep or have something important early in the morning I dont do it..

But what I generally do is this. An alarm goes off at all the following times (after i've fallen asleep)

Usually takes 10 mins to fall asleep. Say i go to bed at 12:00.

-90 mins (1:30) = Usually dont remember a dream, sometimes a very brief one, attempt first wild. I usually have decent success, but more often then not I slip into a non lucid dream.
-90 mins (3:00) = 9/10 times I remember a good dream, usually write it down, get a drink, go to the bathroom. Lay down, do a wild.. works more often then not.
-60 mins (4:00) = WBTB and wild (By now I have gotten my 3-5 hours of sleep, which is the "prime time" for me for a WBTB. From here on its rare to not have at least 2-3 wilds a night. Unless of course I slack off and fall asleep .
-45 mins (4:45) = WBTB and wild.. Over and over till its time to get up (Usually around 8)

Also I will say that after doing this consistantly 4-5 times a week, for around a month.. I almost always wake up about 2 minutes before the alarm goes off.. Technically I dont "need" it, as many people wont. I have it set to only do 3 beeps so it barely barely wakes me, but just reminds me what im doing.. in case I start doze off after naturally waking up. Its almost like my failsafe.

Somehow, the more you step in and out of sleep, the more your chances of having a LD that night increase. I had this happened to me last night where I just kept on waking up till I finally DILDed and remained in that dream. It was a cool one 2!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Shady

http://www.saltcube.com/timer.html

Dont need to be registered, sets up different intervals. Also, I wanna say that it is also downloadable as flash format which can be saved to your PC, or imported to different portable devices that can run flash format.

I have been using this for quite some time now, It can be a bit disruptive, so if I need a really good nights sleep or have something important early in the morning I dont do it..

But what I generally do is this. An alarm goes off at all the following times (after i've fallen asleep)

Usually takes 10 mins to fall asleep. Say i go to bed at 12:00.

-90 mins (1:30) = Usually dont remember a dream, sometimes a very brief one, attempt first wild. I usually have decent success, but more often then not I slip into a non lucid dream.
-90 mins (3:00) = 9/10 times I remember a good dream, usually write it down, get a drink, go to the bathroom. Lay down, do a wild.. works more often then not.
-60 mins (4:00) = WBTB and wild (By now I have gotten my 3-5 hours of sleep, which is the "prime time" for me for a WBTB. From here on its rare to not have at least 2-3 wilds a night. Unless of course I slack off and fall asleep .
-45 mins (4:45) = WBTB and wild.. Over and over till its time to get up (Usually around 8)

Also I will say that after doing this consistantly 4-5 times a week, for around a month.. I almost always wake up about 2 minutes before the alarm goes off.. Technically I dont "need" it, as many people wont. I have it set to only do 3 beeps so it barely barely wakes me, but just reminds me what im doing.. in case I start doze off after naturally waking up. Its almost like my failsafe.

This site worked 100 perecent I WILDed with it this morning, but i was able to do it 4 times The best thing is it was my first time!
Thank you Shady

This seems like a technique meant to just ruin someone's sleeping pattern. The dream cycle is 90 minutes, so it'd make more sense to wake up on 90 minute intervals rather than 60.

Originally Posted by FuriousAngel

This seems like a technique meant to just ruin someone's sleeping pattern. The dream cycle is 90 minutes, so it'd make more sense to wake up on 90 minute intervals rather than 60.

Good luck waking up on the minute for your dream cycle. Dream cycles are NOT always 90 minutes. Thats a rough estimation. Its varies a whole lot depending on your 'regular' sleep cycle, and of course the 50 thousand ways to either hinder or cause an REM rebound will affect it temporarily. (Okay, maybe a bit of an exaggeration )

Theres no reason you cannot wake up in the middle of a dream and slip right back into into one, you dont need to get up before or after. And, for some people who just blow through the whole night usually.. repetitive waking up for the win for recall. Also, listen to the alarm clock , its not a big loud one, you can customize it and such, the thing barely barely wakes me, its perfect. If I dont remember a dream, or am to tired to WILD.. I roll over and fall asleep within 30 secs, and try again later.

You dont need to get up every 60 minutes, get up every 3 hours if you want.. thats why its customizable. It seems like the reason people have such trouble at LDing is because they read something and think that everything has to be perfect and follow this strict procedure to LD. This works for me, maybe it wont for you.. figure it out.

Look over my schedule again, you'll notice I start big (90 minutes), because I like to get the majority of my sleep before really trying to LD. Once I know im in the stage where I start having my longer dreams, I get up more frequently because none of my LD's last over an hour, so sleeping past is no fun if I want to be sure I have a few lucids. I've found I have just as long/vivid dreams in a 45 minute time frame as I do in a 90 minute one.. Why waste time Again, this is how it works for me.. not saying it will for you but I mean, its very well known that repetitive awakening is great for recall and getting used to that "in between" stage. The amount of time in between is personal preference.

Getting up a few times to write in my DJ or preform a DEILD/WILD defiantly doesn't affect my sleep pattern at all anymore, and boosted my recall/LD frequency alot when I was first learning at the loss of maybe 30 mins of sleep (Max, for the whole night). Staying up to watch that late T.V. show is worse then the odd wake up. Nowadays I have plenty of brief awakenings and the alarm clock has become iffy, but its still there if I have a dry patch or something.