Thread: Does this spoil WILD?

After lying still my throat gets really dry, and I will swallow to make my throat wet again so I can breathe. I moved my finger to see if I had fallen alseep (befor e my first sp (last night)

Do these methods totally ruin the wild?

I'm not sure about swallowing, but I know that moving your finger is bad. The idea of WILD is to trick your body into falling asleep, while your mind is still awake. If you move your finger, you're signaling to your body that your mind is still conscious, and this is the opposite of what you want to do.

yeah i had the same dilemma where swalowing is concerned...

i dont move any part of my body but i always thought that swallowing was a bad thing to do,

There is a way around the swallowing.

If you dont mind drooling a little on your pillow, lie on your side, which your mouth titling down =P

Tissue might be a good idea..

Originally Posted by CDR

After lying still my throat gets really dry, and I will swallow to make my throat wet again so I can breathe. I moved my finger to see if I had fallen alseep (befor e my first sp (last night)

Do these methods totally ruin the wild?

I'm sure that we swallow in our sleep so it shouldn't stop you from WILDing, but if you pay too much conscious attention to the act of swallowing, your body will know that you're truly not asleep.

Don't move your finger as a test as that will likely cause you to have to start over. A member here once posted that they simply try to envision themselves "falling through their bed" to see if they're asleep. I thought this was a great idea as it doesn't involve any movement by your physical body.

I can get into SP and I need to swallow while I'm trying to get to sleep.

People probably swallow in their sleep because they would probably drown in their own saliva if they didn't. When trying to get into SP my mouth fills up with saliva really quickly and have a choice either to swallow or ruin the WILD.

I don't know if it will ruin it. i have gotten into sp when swallowing anyway if that might help. :p

Swalloving. What it really does.... As for what i readed. It seems that swallowing only moves the borderline of SP a little bit further. You will get your lucid dream ten seconds later. Do you take it as a problem? Try not to swallow maybe in ten of your attempts. Force yourself. And you will sense the results. In my opinion. The only way how to get rid of those bad subconscious tricks is not to care. Not to care doesnt mean you dont swallow. It is only that you dont care about some swallowing. When you need, just swallow.

{My opinion}

Apparently my just WILD attempt lasted more than 90 minutes... I did it as an afternoon nap, so I got very relaxed, body felt numb and all, I would see some imagery, I feel like I'm floating, but then I had to swallow... I felt like I never got further than the transition stage... My mind suddenly kept focusing on some odd thing. You know like when you fall asleep in class you usually jostle awake? I have this with my mind and I feel like there's nothing I can do about it; suddenly it tells me how dry my throat is, or how painful my back is. (of course, after lying still for so long, my back and arms start hurting...) And then trying not to care is pretty difficult.
I'll try the WILDing on my side this night though, see if it makes a difference.