Post ur most effective Methods!

**DreamGlimpse** · 02-15-2008 03:36 AM

I don't have any effectie methods. Except the Placebo Effect I think.

What are yours?

**dahitman474747** · 02-15-2008 04:27 AM

im still trying to get lucid

**Oros** · 02-15-2008 08:42 AM

WBTB + anyone, DILD i guess.

**Scarred_for_life** · 02-15-2008 09:29 AM

WBTB + MILD, or when I get myself really worked up becoz I havnt had a lucid dream in such a long time

**mez** · 02-15-2008 09:56 AM

Dream Chaining w/WILD = a WILD in 5 seconds = SUPER EFFECTIVE

**ruff23** · 02-15-2008 05:37 PM

Before i sleep i tell myself im going to LD tonight, do this many times, eventualy it will work. Persistance pays off and makes it all worth the while when it finaly works. Also Waking up early in the morning then going back to sleep while telling yourself you want to LD works. the key word is Persistance.

**mez** · 02-16-2008 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by DreamGlimpse

I don't have any effectie methods. Except the Placebo Effect I think.

What are yours?

When you say "placebo" are you talking about autosuggestion? People talk a lot about "placebo's" in relation to lucid dreaming but the matter of fact is is that placebo's themselves are used in medical trials (originally) as something of no intrinsic remedial value that is used to reinforce the patient getting well in a control group to measure the effectivness of a drug. Basically they want to know if its all in the mind and thats where get the "placebo effect" from but in terms of lucid dreaming what we are trying to acheive is all in the mind to begin with so it doesnt exactly apply in the same context if you get what im saying.

Autosuggestion works yeilding a relatively low percentage of lucid dreams but still getting some results.

**Tryble** · 02-16-2008 07:53 AM

In regards to LDs, the placebo effect refers to the idea that believing something will cause a LD, and will generally do so; dreams and sleep are generally more susceptible to belief, expectations, autosuggestion and whatnot, so it's a fairly noticeable benefit.

Example, over in the Lucid Aids forum there's a thread about B6. One guy there posted a few links to studies that show that B6 is actually more likely to reduce REM sleep and such. But people around here still insist that it's the best thing evarz in helping with LDs.

There's a difference between autosuggestion and placebo.

**mez** · 02-16-2008 09:07 AM

hmm yes i see your point there. dreams are built on beliefs and expectations. in the near future I need to do some study on lucidity aids. I noticed the tutorials section has a massive post on it.

Jokes aside i think placebos are wonderful! results are results no matter how you obtain em.