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      Trouble Concentrating

      When I try and go to sleep, or try a technique which requires "passing out" or falling into your dream from the waking state, I constantly have something going in my head like a song. Sometimes I get it to end, but I "improvise something" which goes continuously. I also have my "voice" in my head talking. If I try not too think, that's what's going in my head: "I'm trying to not think...dangit!". It's really bothering, anyone know a good solution?

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      The sounds good, I'll try it. The only problem is that I've tried counting in my head before, I lose track pretty easily.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Venomblood View Post
      The only problem is that I've tried counting in my head before, I lose track pretty easily.
      When you lose track.. either start over or simply begin where you left off.

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      I often loose track around 50, just pick up about where you think you were. I count down but by the time I'm really deep I'm all over the place: 20, 19, 18, 17, 18, 19, 18, 17, 17...

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      Quote Originally Posted by ninja9578 View Post
      I often loose track around 50, just pick up about where you think you were. I count down but by the time I'm really deep I'm all over the place: 20, 19, 18, 17, 18, 19, 18, 17, 17...
      I beat that... Sometimes I loose it at twenty.

      You could try reverse blinking if you have trouble concentrating. Every time you let out a deep breath open your eyes for only a moment. When I try this during an afternoon nap I can have the spinning sensation in 20 breaths.

      I have my own question here too, whenever I get to 20 reverse blinks and stop counting I can feel myself spinning, but then after a few seconds I stop feeling that. any tips?

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      internal talking & the songs stuck in your head are the worst to concentration sometimes.

      Maybe to improve your concentration, you could try various meditations or visualization techniques?
      After you have practiced meditation for some time, your inner vision will become keen and clear. It might help you?
      Try it if you want to clear your mind barriers to concentration.
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      I agree with the song and internal dialogue and stuff, but counting is mundane enough not to break concentration. Uhg, I hate getting songs in my head.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Venomblood View Post
      When I try and go to sleep, or try a technique which requires "passing out" or falling into your dream from the waking state, I constantly have something going in my head like a song. Sometimes I get it to end, but I "improvise something" which goes continuously. I also have my "voice" in my head talking. If I try not too think, that's what's going in my head: "I'm trying to not think...dangit!". It's really bothering, anyone know a good solution?
      Probably its the way how you approach the process of Concentration. You should first eliminate internal dialogue. Its the first thing, that distracts. But be aware, that words cannot stop themselves. I usually switch my concentration to music making or image construction. So I emphasize one sensoric channel which stops internal dialogue from itself.

      Second. You should stop awaiting something. Do not want.... Just wish it to come. Thats probably most important. Your brain is you actually. How would you react in your life if people around you approached you with sentences like: I want you to make this..., I want you to make that... What feeling do this sentences invoke?

      Third: You thing, that you will succeed with this technique tomorrow? Forget about it. Its an advanced technique. Still worth trying. But dont expect it to come as fast and dont be cruel about yourself. You know what this sentence means?: "I'm trying to not think...dangit!".
      I want to achieve it right NOW, pronto.. Give it time. You know what to do to be concentrated, but your brain is not at that state every day. So maybe, today you wont achieve it... Maybe yes.

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      Thanks everybody, I got rid of the music by counting, but the internal dialogue is still there. The way it works with me, is if I try and form a picture, I can remove the "top layer" of my internal dialogue, but theres "more layers" that are weaker. It's hard to explain, but I'll keep trying. Again, thanks!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Venomblood View Post
      Thanks everybody, I got rid of the music by counting, but the internal dialogue is still there. The way it works with me, is if I try and form a picture, I can remove the "top layer" of my internal dialogue, but theres "more layers" that are weaker. It's hard to explain, but I'll keep trying. Again, thanks!
      Maybe more interesting would be to find the time, when not to start wilding.
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      I know exactly what you mean with the layers of internal dialogue.. I have the same thing going on and it messes up my concentration as well :/

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