Quote Originally Posted by ThiefDeath View Post
This is not what I was referring to.


This is what I was referring to.


But I could be in this 'slipping' state for a half hour. I've even stayed in this state for entire nights without dreaming at all (and not because I wanted to). It's still not a desirable state to have a lucid dream, because it is distant and noninteractive.
Ok fine whatever, if it doesn't work for you i'm sorry, I did write a disclaimer at the beginning of the post that said it isn't the end all technique, many techniques don't work for people, you just have to find the right one.