http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...highlight=pain
i just tried this guide and it went well to start with. i had no trouble staying still, my eyes were flickering slightly but i could keep them closed, then suddenly i had this feeling in my stomach. you know when you are on a roller coaster or swinging really high on a swing, and as you go down you get that WHOOSH in your stomach? thats what it felt like. and my heartbeat sped up really fast. i could literally hear it. is this good? i didnt get any further than that because my mum called me down for tea.