If your serious about mastering lucid dream....

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12-12-2007, 11:09 AM
julianabruce

If your serious about mastering lucid dream....

you should develop one pointed concentration...samatha meditation... in tibetan dream yoga this is the foundation of all other techniques... without concentration what can you achieve?... you need for strengthing the intention to have a lucid dream, focusing on the technique you use to become lucid, and staying mindfull of anything you wanna think about...when you master this technique you will be the master of your mind...start by choosing a physical object to focus on...sit up with the back straight.. head tilted slightly forward...then keep the awareness on the object...stay in sensuality of the present moment, dont not let your self be carried away in the past or the future... if you do at least 5 minutes a day everyday... everything will change!!...when you focus stay as still as possible... dont blink.. you know your making progress when strange visual phenomena appear...dont be exciting about this nor distured... as you develop concentration you will attain samadhi!!.. but you cannot skip a day .. if you skip one day... you lost everything!...you have to start all over... use this power to master lucid dreaming!
12-12-2007, 07:19 PM
dreamviewer2006

who says this works? This is only a theory right? It makes sense but still.....
12-12-2007, 07:58 PM
TalkingHead

Agreed that concentration and meditiation are the key tools to LD.. but I don't think that skipping a day has huge effect. But it IS important to stay motivated about it and not give up. Meditation will produce great changes in you over time and your mind will be very resistant to them at first. Do not be tricked by its games to make you stop.

Your mind wants to protect your ego.. its identity and center of control often at all costs. Meditation should definitely expand these but in a way that gives you more control and peace. If you are going to do it.. devote yourself for a while because way too many people give up after a few days after "nothing happened." Stick with it and consider it a matter of life and death. After the initial phase of work, you will come to really look forward to meditating for the rest of your life. But the time to start is NOW.

If you need help staying motivated.. I would consider checking out the lengthy text:
"Book of Secrets" by Osho. Its down to earth and substantial.
12-12-2007, 09:20 PM
Dream Boat

lawlz..

I doubt this works very much, although this does sound rather interseting. Maybe i'll give it a go, how long does it take before you start to see aney progress? 1 maybe 2 weeks ? :huh2:
12-13-2007, 03:35 AM
LucidInCuB!zt

Concentration is a great source because it leads you into a much focused mind.

concentration leads to a much focused intention to carrying out a dream goal, meaning your mind will run in a much stable way when focused and eventually get that desired dream. You'll also need a good recall in order to remember what was it you planned to do in a certain dream.

>Concentration increases Focus

>A good focus and recall increase chances of having a LD through DILD.

Meditation helps a lot if you know what you're doing....
12-13-2007, 05:12 AM
luwatchernb

Is it too much to ask for people to spellcheck around here? At *least* proofread the title of the threads you create.
12-13-2007, 03:59 PM
polmc

Dream Boat,

LOL I love your signature :banana:
12-13-2007, 04:09 PM
Seeker

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Originally Posted by luwatchernb

Is it too much to ask for people to spellcheck around here? At *least* proofread the title of the threads you create.

:horse:

I'm interested as always in new methods and meditations. Thanks for the tip, I'll be sure to check it out. I can already see the connection between samatha meditation and the lotus technique used widely by some people.
12-14-2007, 12:19 AM
Riot Maker

Woah i just tryed this sitting at my desk starring at my empty water bottle for 10 minutes straight and i felt like the room was falling forwards. then my right ball(of the eye) started to hurt so i stopped. It felt sweet though. i think i can get used to this everyday.
12-14-2007, 07:29 AM
Fluffysilver

Interesting, I'll give this a try. I'm trying to master lucid dreams so I can explore the dream world and create my own world, so thank you for posting this. <3
12-14-2007, 10:23 PM
ThePhobiaViewed

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Originally Posted by Riot Maker

then my right ball(of the eye) started to hurt so i stopped.

Lol thanks for clarifying

Yes improving focus etc will improve your dreaming as will pretty much anything like meditation. I'm skeptical about the skip one day and you have to start over thing though.
12-15-2007, 04:20 AM
dreamviewer2006

ok I did this and it was odd, like my surrondings blurred up and al I could see was the word I was focusing on. Pretty weird, can this be bad for your eyes though? Like my legs and everything I could see were all blurred and also like white and foggy.
12-15-2007, 04:30 AM
dreamviewer2006

It was like I was in a world that stood still and only the word I was looking at exisited. It was pretty cool but a little scary even a bit.
12-15-2007, 11:10 AM
polmc

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Originally Posted by dreamviewer2006

ok I did this and it was odd, like my surrondings blurred up and al I could see was the word I was focusing on. Pretty weird, can this be bad for your eyes though? Like my legs and everything I could see were all blurred and also like white and foggy.

Well, I dont think its bad since its just staring fixedly at something, and we do this very often (reading, using the computer, etc.).

Of course if you exaggerate then it might bring physical/psychological problems. Just do it for some minutes, then look at something which is far (the landscape or w/e), to change you eye's focus point, so it can relax.. that's what I do when I spend too much time in front of a monitor.
12-15-2007, 03:48 PM
Blµb

IMO this helps a lot, although the part where you said that when you skip one day everything's lost... is wrong (for me at least).
Some suggestions:
You could start doing this in a quiet room for some time, then do it for a longer time a day, then when you think you can keep up the concentration you might even place some distractions, like music (if that distracts you, i guess it depends on the music anyway)...
12-15-2007, 04:58 PM
Idolfan

What Polmc said about relaxing the eyes by changing a focal point is intersting. Sorry to be a bit off topic but if I don't do that (I never feel the need to event hough my eyes seem to hurt all the time) would it affect my eyesight? I'm just a bit worried because I'm definetaly a bit short sighted and I think it's getting worse. :(
12-15-2007, 08:21 PM
polmc

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Originally Posted by Idolfan

What Polmc said about relaxing the eyes by changing a focal point is intersting. Sorry to be a bit off topic but if I don't do that (I never feel the need to event hough my eyes seem to hurt all the time) would it affect my eyesight? I'm just a bit worried because I'm definetaly a bit short sighted and I think it's getting worse. :(

Here's some research Ive done, of course Im not a doctor so if you really have any eye problems you should see one!

Eyes were designed this way, they are most relaxed when they are viewing objects in the distance. Focusing on object physically close to the eyes requires the accommodation reflex as discussed in any standard textbook on the physiology if human vision. Accommodation for extended periods of time, being not natural, puts stress on the eyes muscles. Now imagine modern living. Most people eyes focus on a large area that is close to their face for example, when they are looking at a computer screen, a TV or reading a book. After the accommodation reflex is consistently abused by near work with the eyes, the eye muscles lose the ability to fully relax (as they do during normal distance vision), thus having the chance of getting vision problemes on the long run.

Hope this helps :)