Step by Step routine

[Riot Maker]

Hello, Im failry new to the whole LD and OBE and AP Phenomena. Ive done a a little bit of research and come across alot of methods. But i would like to know what type of methods that you guy and girls are using. So i thoguht i would put up this step by step type list and hopefully i can use some of you methods as a template because i am not haveing much sucsess. My method: 1) I go to bed around 11 after doing homework. 2) Close my eyes and try to visulaize a nice place( A baseball park is my the usual for me) 3) After i Visualize the baseball park i imagine an object that is 3 feet away from me and focus on it for 5 minutes. Then move it back to 6 then 9. Then i move the up ject up and i pretned it is pulling my sould or dream body away from my physical body. 4) This never seems to work for me that why im asking you guys!

[arby]

Provide a little more information then "not work" What happens when you try step 3?

[Riot Maker]

Nothing. Everything is balck and i wait for 20 minutes. Then i just get up and get a glass of water and get some regular sleep

[arby]

Well, if you can't even see anything when you try to visualize, thats where you should begin. Make sure its somewhere familiar to make it easier.

[Riot Maker]

Well, if you can't even see anything when you try to visualize, thats where you should begin. Make sure its somewhere familiar to make it easier. Ok sounds good, thanks. I just got done reding your thread on "how to VILD". i found that veyr informative and i will be trying that for the next couple of weeks.