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      Sleep Deprivation Method, a Five Point Explanation!

      Imagine there was a method, that would allow for nearly one hundred percent lucidity. And then imagine it involved no sleep. Yes, this methods focal point is not sleeping! It can be done by anyone with time to spend, the best being an entire weekend or even longer!

      1) WHY IT HAPPENS

      Sleep deprivation causes your brain to miss out on REM sleep; the time when your brain has your biggest and best dreams, and the most likely time for lucid dreaming. Your missed out REM sleep while you stay up stacks and stacks until you have heaps and heaps of vivid, long, dreaming time, which means you have nearly four to five times the amount of REM- Three times the lucid likleness.

      2) HOW LONG

      There is no determined 'perfect' time, the 'perfect' time would be for as long as possible, as it only gives that much more REM time. However, we all have lives, and we simply cannot stay up (And sleep afterwards) for that long. For a normal, highschool age student, begin staying up on Friday, sleep after forty-eight hours, sleep all of Sunday. Of course, with Summer and other breaks, add however long you want.

      3) HOW

      The key to staying up is to keep busy, but at the same time, not so busy to tire you. An easy thing is to watch videos, play games, but an even better thing to do is post on the forums, read about Lucid Dreaming, practice reality checks... Anything that is related to it. Also, try and have friends over, or go find them yourself. You need to stay awake, and falling asleep while you have friends talking to you and playing games is hard.

      The wee hours are the hardest to stay up in, but don't get discouraged. Use caffeine- Soda, caffeine pills,- sugar, anything. Do not eat 'modern' foods, I'd stick to bread, cheese, and meat. I've found that when 'good' food settles in your stomach, you get sleepier.

      Don't forget to stay as uncomfortable as possible, within reason. Don't lay down, don't close your eyes. Stay in a bad posistion, stay drenched with water, and jump into a cold shower often. Just anything to stay awake.

      4) SLEEP TIME

      After you've spent your time in hell, time to go to Heaven. Get comfortable, and sleep! You don't really need to do anything before bed, since you've been practcing mainly for a DILD which is VERY likley to happen. You don't really even need to be good at reality checks and the like, I've found that LD's come without concious effort.

      However, this is absolutley THE BEST time to do ANY method. MILD is obvious- You'll fall asleep very quickly while chanting the mantra, and the dreams will be vivid. VILDs are the same thing, when you visualize you fall asleep quickly. WILD's are okay to some extent, if you can manage not to fall asleep for the first couple of minutes SP should begin fast and you should enter the dream quickly. If you can wake up () WBTB would be perfect, you'll be able to fall asleep quickly.

      5) CONCLUSIONS

      This is the perfect method for anyone with time to spend. It takes nearly no skill, but at the same time, if you are an expert it helps induce multiple LD's in one night. I've had seven (Count em'- SEVEN!!) LD's in one night because of this method. Everyone should try it, and if you're a nightcrawler like me who can't get to sleep easily, this is your holy grail!

      However, don't forget that there are several bad things... Don't do this if you need to get up early (obviously). You'll be angrier and easily upset, plus you'll be in a drug like state... No driving or anything, so don't hold me responsible :p .

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      Last edited by BeautifulDreamer; 07-12-2007 at 01:21 AM.

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      Wow BD you just pretty much summarized my sleep cycle with your post XD

      I have to say though if any of you have the willpower and or time to do this to give it a shot it really works I do it all the time.

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      I can honestly say that this method is 100% perfect. It ALWAYS works. All you have to do is close your eyes and you can slip into a dream so easily it's not even fit. As amazing as this is, because you're not getting enough sleep, it is kinda bad. I would advise probably doing this technique maybe...once or twice a month? Although this works all the time, it does have side effects.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Truffles View Post
      I can honestly say that this method is 100% perfect. It ALWAYS works. All you have to do is close your eyes and you can slip into a dream so easily it's not even fit. As amazing as this is, because you're not getting enough sleep, it is kinda bad. I would advise probably doing this technique maybe...once or twice a month? Although this works all the time, it does have side effects.
      What are the side effects I do this every week? Every two or three days I should say and have experienced no side effects.

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      Doing this every week? Well, I suppose nothing afterwards, as you'll get a ton of sleep. But during, I wouldn't want to drive or operate machinerey. It'll be kinda trippy, little bit of a drug state. Again, angriness.

      I did it for a week. Hectic. But 7 LD's in a 15 hour period.
      Last edited by BeautifulDreamer; 07-12-2007 at 02:04 AM.

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      You'll fall asleep very quickly while chanting the mantra, and the dreams will be vivid

      what is the mantra?

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      Sounds like a great thing to try out, not to mention it will give me time to work on some Flash animations I've been putting off. Unfortunately, I just got a job working at Domino's. If I get any free time, I'll try it out.

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      last month i missed a nights sleep and when i finally did manage to get to bed i was so tired i entered sp after about 5 minutes. at the time i didn't know what it was so i roused myself out of it and got up and then went back to sleep. so this technique definitely works
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      Quote Originally Posted by tekkendreams View Post
      You'll fall asleep very quickly while chanting the mantra, and the dreams will be vivid

      what is the mantra?
      A part of the MILD method.

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      Quote Originally Posted by EVIL JOE View Post
      Sounds like a great thing to try out, not to mention it will give me time to work on some Flash animations I've been putting off. Unfortunately, I just got a job working at Domino's. If I get any free time, I'll try it out.
      Quote Originally Posted by cartman21 View Post
      last month i missed a nights sleep and when i finally did manage to get to bed i was so tired i entered sp after about 5 minutes. at the time i didn't know what it was so i roused myself out of it and got up and then went back to sleep. so this technique definitely works
      Yeah, this method isn't good for working... And cartman, if you would have stayed in SP I'm sure you would have had multiple LD's...

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      Quote Originally Posted by BeautifulDreamer View Post
      Yeah, this method isn't good for working... And cartman, if you would have stayed in SP I'm sure you would have had multiple LD's...
      Mhmm if people would realize that if you get weird feelings or sensations while sleeping these are must likely the pre-cursors of entering a dream just go with the flow and dreams/lucid dreams will follow.

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      wud i be cheating myself if i sleep for say 12 hours and then stay up for 48hours after that...because since the average sleep a person shud get is 8 hrs..if i sleep for 12 hrs wud that then minus from the 48 hrs and therefore i wud actually only stay up for 44 hrs if looked at it in that way? so if do sleep for 12 hrs before waking up for 48 hrs that wud mean i must stay up for 52 hrs?

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      I've always advocated the SleepDep method. It's not easy, but it works so damn well.
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      We who are about to dream, salute you!

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      oh and another thing...im quite freaked out abt hallucinations..and i heard taht lack of sleep causes hallucinations...so i googled "hallucination from lack of sleep" and got this answer...so now im kinda scared...

      http://www.sleepnet.com/forum4/messages/345.html

      quote from site

      ""you will experience REM attacks, and there will be hallucinatory events. It would be good to have someone in attendance to keep you safe ""

      "" Personally speaking, after years of working nights I can recall occasions when I saw lights, and/or heard voices when there were none, after 36 hours of sleeplessness ""

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      Quote Originally Posted by oath_keeper View Post
      oh and another thing...im quite freaked out abt hallucinations..and i heard taht lack of sleep causes hallucinations...so i googled "hallucination from lack of sleep" and got this answer...so now im kinda scared...

      http://www.sleepnet.com/forum4/messages/345.html

      quote from site

      ""you will experience REM attacks, and there will be hallucinatory events. It would be good to have someone in attendance to keep you safe ""

      "" Personally speaking, after years of working nights I can recall occasions when I saw lights, and/or heard voices when there were none, after 36 hours of sleeplessness ""
      Quote Originally Posted by Torcher View Post
      I've always advocated the SleepDep method. It's not easy, but it works so damn well.
      Quote Originally Posted by oath_keeper View Post
      wud i be cheating myself if i sleep for say 12 hours and then stay up for 48hours after that...because since the average sleep a person shud get is 8 hrs..if i sleep for 12 hrs wud that then minus from the 48 hrs and therefore i wud actually only stay up for 44 hrs if looked at it in that way? so if do sleep for 12 hrs before waking up for 48 hrs that wud mean i must stay up for 52 hrs?
      1- The hallucinations only occur after a long while without sleep, somewhere along 100 hours. Before then, just keep busy and use caffeine.

      2- It is nearly perfect, the only bad things are the staying up and the time it takes away from your day. However, it's not like you're not sleeping for a long time, it really zooms by if you set goals for yourself.

      3- Erhm... You're staying up for 48 hours either way- Your REM period would be over and it would start stacking after you stay up longer then you normally do.

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