Thread: Fild Problems

Originally Posted by danjamjoh

OK, hello, thanks for visiting my thread

I have tried to FILD about..3 times now, every time i have failed. Basically, i dont know why.

What i do:
Go to sleep 10:00PM
Wake up 3:00
Move only to turn my alarm off
Put my hand under my pillow and move my fingers

The problem is, i do this for about 30 seconds, nose RC, nothing happens. The RC completely ruins my concentration so i end up falling asleep again.

I dont know if theres anything that could help? If you have any criticism it is welcome.
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Hmm honestly, I didnt continue with FILD. I am not sure yet instead of tediously doing reality checks, perhaps imagine yourself going to sleep doing the finger movements. Yes, do them, but instead of ruinnig your concentration with an RC, keep going, and try to keep the thought in your head, and only this thought "I am moving my fingers so I will realize I'm dreaming, I know I can realize I'm dreaming, Now I'll pay extra care to my surroundings,since I know the next thing I will see is a dream". You don't have to do exactly that yet give it a shot. Remember its your head thats controlling your LD's, the finers are just a mode of getting to your head.

Hope you have some luck

Originally Posted by danjamjoh

The problem is, i do this for about 30 seconds, nose RC, nothing happens. The RC completely ruins my concentration so i end up falling asleep again.

I dont know if theres anything that could help? If you have any criticism it is welcome.
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Try following the guidelines for WILD, the FILD is very similar. The only difference with FILD is that one uses finger movement to keep the conscious mind awake, instead of the someone more difficult method of counting in your head.

30 seconds is not nearly long enough. The finger movement is not a magic technique, you are still required to go through all the stages of WILD. Your body will fall asleep first, and your state of consciousness will change. How it will change is beyond the scope of this post. When the time comes to RC, you should know it. There will be a marked change in consciousness, just like in WILDs.

Because you asked so nicely, and in relatively good grammar, I'll post a link to the Five Stages of WILD. You should perform the finger movement all the way until your dream. Read it carefully.

And one more thing, try capitalising 'I', and putting an apostrophe in "don't". You're so close... I just hate to see talent go to waste.

Ok, I will folow Taihens guidelines tonight. Thanks for the help, it is most appreciated!

When I Move Fingers It Takes Around 5 Secs Till Ld, Check My Suggestion In The Fild Post.

I think what our dear Malac is trying to say, is that idealy you should do the movement as close to falling asleep as possible, to avoid the movement disturbing your relaxation.

I have only attained a FILD once. I think that the timing thing would be hard to work with because how do you know when the 30 seconds is up or if you have being doing FILD long enough - counting time is distracting because all you want to concentrate on is your fingers moving and the rest of your mind blank!

I can tell when I enter an LD because I get a vibration that runs through my body and I feel different physically. So when I did it I just moved my fingers with as blank a mind as I could until I felt the vibration then I opened my eyes and did my hand RC. I am hoping to repeat a FILD again soon as the first time I did it was so easy!

Good Luck.

Namaste