hi there.

ive been reading alot about LD's.
i want to be able to induce them, they sound cool.
but i dont want a heap of new age spirit mumbo jumbo.

i have the ability to put myself to sleep almost instantly.
i just stop thinking, and im out. but if i don't do anything
i will most likely be asleep in 5-15 minutes.

i have tried many many times over the course of about half a year. WILD and MILD mostly.
MILD hasnt worked, so im trying WILD. i relax, breathe, sometimes when i start to doze i think to my self 'In. out.' 'in out.' i do this for a little while, next thing i know its morning, and im thinking to myself "ok lets try the WILD teqnique with breathing" as if i havnt broken my train of thought. then i realize 'oh its morning. it didnt work'.
i cant get into paralysys. (which actually sounds cool and fun)

ive read that your supposed to sleep 5-6 hours before a WILD...
sounds like WBTB to me... can you have WILDs directly from your first time sleeping of the day? REM cycles dont come for another couple hours though... but again i have the same train of thought carry over.



i dont know if this is an answerable quesetion, but does anyone know how when you are seeing HI it feels like your eyes are one way, but once you snap outta HI yours eyes are another way? which way should they be for a WILD?


Thanks for any help.