Thread: Question about a technique i heard

okay, a while back, i read about a technique, something like this:

To help keep your mind from wandering, just move your pointer and middle finger up and down over and over again against the bed, and only concentrate on your 2 moving fingers. after about 15 or 20 mineuts pass, do a reality check. The finger movement should enter the dream.

Well i tried this, but, where im so bush concentrating on finger movement, i cannot fall asleep! i need some help or advice.

I read that also. It’s harder to do then it sounds. After about 10 or fifteen minutes weird sensations start to happen. I have never had a wild but will try again. I forgot the part about RCing.

I read of several villages in India where the women had evolved the characteristic of being able to sleep while still being able to continue to fan themselves with a hand fan. Apparently it is not something that can be learned, or at least the assumption is that it took scores of generations for this practice to be possible, and that there is probably some genetic marker for it by now. But perhaps the researchers were exaggerating in order to help put forward some agenda concerning dynamic evolution, when really some degree of limited motor function can be developed which can continue from waking through to sleeping. However, it would probably take years to develop such a skill, and that is only if the researchers are wrong about their insistence that such a practice would require a genetic predisposition.

ummmm, Leo, that's not at all what Goddess was talking about

Go to the HILD board, i believe that's what you were talking about. You shouldn't be focussing too intently on your fingers moving just to be aware of it, also you should only use this tech when you're nearly asleep, or have just woken up and are about to fall asleep again. You should only have to move your fingers for 1 - 5 minutes too, although others would be able to explain better exactly how this tech works. Try posting on the HILD topic. Best of luck

Glor

Dear Goddess,

Actually, there is a far better Technique that was written about along time ago by
Robert Monroe, I think, of Astral Projection fame. His idea was to lay down and stand one's arm up in the air from the elbow, balancing it upward. It would take just a minimum of effort and concentration. Virtually just set it up and forget it. What would happen then, though, if one should fall asleep, is that the arm would fall which would stir one just enough to know that one had just gone over that threshold, where Astral Projection, to him, would easily be attainable, or Lucid Dreaming to us.

So, which is easier, tapping one's fingers endlessly, or simply standing one's arm up in the air from the elbow and forgetting about it until it does its trick.

So why is it that we have not heard about the Arm in the Air Trick. Well, it has to do with the restraints of Capitalism. Anybody who write for money, or speaks for money, can't use information that another person had used in order to charge money. It falls under the category of Intellectual Property. It is okay for me to give away the information, but nearly everybody else in this world is being influenced by one New Age Guru or the next who are so busy selling their own Copyrighted ideas that they quite neglect the age old secrets being passed down from hoary traditions... dating back to the seventies.

Leo, I've heard of that technique and the people who have done it. They have told me that it is a very bad technique for one can not just raise the arm and forget it, it is much easier said than done. Most of the time this technique will just wake the person attempting it...

I use the Arm-Up technique pretty often. Can't even remember where I first heard it. It works every now and then, but not always. A few times I've been able to slip into LD's that way, especially when using it after having woke up once already, but a lot of times I'll just wake up in the morning after having fallen asleep with my arm up, and I'll be in a completely different position.

Originally posted by The Guardians
They have told me that it is a very bad technique for one can not just raise the arm and forget it, it is much easier said than done. Most of the time this technique will just wake the person attempting it...

I heard about this technique. I was suprised, because as a child, I used to do this all the time when dropping off to sleep. It felt relaxing falling asleep with my arm in the air. Sounds odd now though. Trouble is, I lost count of the amount of times I hit myself in the face when my arm went floppy. Maybe that's why I stopped doing it. Either way, I can't ever remeber having a lucid dream from it.